Published Dec 5, 2015
turnforthenurse, MSN, NP
3,364 Posts
Can anybody give me an idea of what grad level advanced patho or statistics will be like? I took undergrad stats >9 years ago and undergrad patho >7-8 years ago. I don't really remember much from stats and I remember undergrad patho was pretty difficult but I did well in the class. Is the class going focus more on the clinical aspect or also at the cellular level? Does anybody have any recommendations for books/resources that really helped them? I think my classes are going to be online.
mtsteelhorse
1,635 Posts
I had to take stats to complete my online BSN. I am so terrified of numbers I searched for the easiest online class I could find. If you're good with numbers and formulas you should be fine. I am not. I have not had to take stats in grad school. IMO Adv Patho is easier in grad school but I suspect it depends on where you attend. My class was clinically focused and broader in concepts than I expected. I have heard this from other students as well. It wasn't by any means easy, but grad school builds on the foundation established in undergrad. To me, that foundation was more tedious and challenging than graduate level courses. Grad school is a ton of work but is based on bringing your previous education to the table rather than re-inventing the wheel. I hope this helps!
I'm not really good with numbers - math is kind of my weak area. Thank you for your insight! I don't have information on required textbooks yet but do you have any book recommendations?
lhflanurseNP, APRN
737 Posts
I did not have to do another statistics course, but it was a regular part of Research Methods and a couple of other classes. Advanced Patho was just more in-depth and more on the cellular level as well as genetics and a bunch of other stuff. This class was very important in setting the grounds to actually working through problems in clinicals as well as the board exam. You may not have the right answer off the bat, but by using the basics of Advanced Patho, I found it easier to find the answer.
APRN., DNP, RN, APRN, NP
995 Posts
I did not have to do another statistics course, but I had to know how to Apply statistics in Grad school ~ so it is definitely recommended that you've got a handle on how to find a p value, whether or not you need to use a t test, a z test, blah, blah, all of the euew boring, gag me, type issues that a stats course requires that you know etc, etc.
I worked in Critical Care/Trauma for years and got my CCRN before returning to school for my Masters.
I had to take the 3 P's separately.
They were much easier than I anticipated, but then again, I started off a little farther into the material than my non-Critical Care cohort members.
Dranger
1,871 Posts
Advanced patho seemed to be more in depth than undergrad but also a bit easier. I attribute this to experience and exposure though. There's a big difference between me taking patho as a college freshman and now.
littlepeopleRNICU
476 Posts
Stats was stats. I don't really know much else to say about it lol. I very much did not match well with my professor's teaching style, but I got a tutor and made an A in the class.
Patho was more in depth than undergrad. I really enjoyed it because it felt applicable to my future, and even now, as a bedside RN. There was a lot of info in the class, but I also made an A in it.
I did not have to do another statistics course, but I had to know how to Apply statistics in Grad school ~ so it is definitely recommended that you've got a handle on how to find a p value, whether or not you need to use a t test, a z test, blah, blah, all of the euew boring, gag me, type issues that a stats course requires that you know etc, etc. I worked in Critical Care/Trauma for years and got my CCRN before returning to school for my Masters. I had to take the 3 P's separately. They were much easier than I anticipated, but then again, I started off a little farther into the material than my non-Critical Care cohort members.
Umm, WHAT? lol. I remember hearing about the P value but that's it!
Rocknurse, MSN, APRN, NP
1,367 Posts
I was terrified of Stats, both in undergrad and in grad school. I hate math and just never really did well but I knuckled down and really studied and got myself a tutor. It wasn't that bad! I made an A in each class. If I can do it anyone can. I recommend using Laerd Statistics. It was really cheap considering the amount and usefulness of the content - https://statistics.laerd.com Advanced Stats actually had less math because we used SPSS. It was more about interpreting the results of research studies, and it was actually really useful in other classes.
Thank you so much for the website recommendation! I think this is what I needed :)
I'm still terrified of advanced patho, though! Can anyone recommend a good book that helped them? I don't know what textbook I will be using as of it. I guess I'm more so afraid of the instructor...I've heard nothing but horror stories
Bs'n
3 Posts
I cried every single day doing my stats homework in undergrad. Here's my best description of Statistics class: Take a bunch of words that you think you know the definition of, change the definitions to some arbitrary nonsense, then add math. Lots of long math. Advanced patho was fascinating. But I love that kind of science.
Thank you so much for the website recommendation! I think this is what I needed :)I'm still terrified of advanced patho, though! Can anyone recommend a good book that helped them? I don't know what textbook I will be using as of it. I guess I'm more so afraid of the instructor...I've heard nothing but horror stories
You're welcome. It's the best site! As for patho, we got a massive textbook the size of a small house that didn't do me a whole lot of good. Way too much content to read in the alloted time. What I did was break it down into need-to-know sections and then I watched a bunch of lecture videos on YouTube to really get the concept. There are some fantastic resources out there. Take acid base balance for example. There are lots of lecture videos out there. The ones from Khan Academy are the best. You can apply this to stats too. I absolutely relied on Khan Academy videos to get through stats. They explain things so well and it really sticks in your head. I ordered a book called Clinical Pathophysiology Made Ridiculously Simple which was recommended by med students and it's a great book but I didn't use it nearly as much as I used Khan Academy. Link: Clinical Pathophysiology Made Ridiculously Simple: 9780940780804: Medicine & Health Science Books @ Amazon.com