ADN's being pushed out

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I work for a large Magnet hospital. As nursing becomes more popular, and nurses not in short supply, I have noticed something ominous has being going on lately. Several of our older and very seasoned ADN nurses are being fired. The excuses for firing are ridiculous. I have sadly seen some excellent nurses lose their jobs. I am wondering if they want to get rid of the ADNs so they can look "better" with an all BSN staff. Or perhaps they want rid of older nurses who have been there longer because they are higher on the pay scale. Either way, it is very scarey. I myself am BSN, and i am not ashamed to say that what I know does not hold a candle to these fired nurses. Any thoughts?

Specializes in Managed Care, Onc/Neph, Home Health.

Any person entering a traditional BSN program starts at square 1!! learning to make beds, take BP's, temps, empty bedpans, and the likes, I WOULD HOPE. I am an "old skool" RN. I learned all that stuff. Somebody correct me if i am wrong, If they don't teach like that these days. Maybe thats where all the confusion is coming from. Do they not teach the basics anymore? Is that where the my BSN program is better than your ADN program is coming from??? Maybe they don't teach how to make beds and take bp's and all the "true nurse stuff". The basic nursing (bedside care, injections, accucheck, nursey stuff) things should be the same. EXCEPT for the "other stuff" to complete the bachelors aspect. The NCLEX, like everybody has stated is the same. It used to be a big deal back in the day to flaunt your BSN, its not anymore...Whoop de do. They give them away like samples at Sams on a Saturday Morning.....well not that easy :loveya:hehehe. But this argument is crazy. You can practically BUY your BSN these days. ONLINE. They just about have no credibility in my book, SO LONG AS YOU HAVE BSN. The RN is what matters at the end of your 12 hrs. Pushing my soapbox back under my chair....:twocents:

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Specializes in Managed Care, Onc/Neph, Home Health.

Oh yeah, I got my ADN, with a BS in Community Health Education!:bow:

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Specializes in Emergency Nursing.

@JustADream

That tech was an arrogant tool and should not have said that. I am sorry you had to hear it and I hope you said something.

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Specializes in Neuro ICU, SICU.

i got an job fresh out of asn/adn school. actually had it 4 mo before grad... in an SICU in a hospital that does transplants. depends on where u live! no regrets here!

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Specializes in Clinical Research, Outpt Women's Health.

I am about to turn 50. I just do not want to go back to school and I especially do not want to take on debt to do it. Sigh.

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Sadly, I am facing this reality. I just earned my ADN RN, I have been a LPN for 10 years. At least 3 of the jobs I have applied to flat out told me that if I had a BSN I would have got the job. To add to that sting, I have heard over and over "LPN experience does not count". I am so dissapointed. I already have a BS but I wanted that RN so badly . . . now that I have it I am being told that I have to get a BSN. Looks like I'll be going back to the RHIA work for a while. *sigh*

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Specializes in Critical Care.

Nursing salaries don't match the enormous responsibilities at the bedside! My unit is in a constant state of training and as a 25 plus year nurse there are no rewards for

precepting and a penny for certification!! Oh and salary is maxed and I am 50 years old! Great incentive to stay..ha!!a few seconds ago - LikeUnlike

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I am a new graduate of an ADN program and will be pursuing my BSN this fall because I keep being told that eventually we will be told we will have to have it by 2020. I recently got a job and asked my employer about tution reimbursement and pay differential for BSN. I was shocked to find out from HR there is NO tution help and absolutely NO differential in pay. I am really taken back by this since they are pushing for their nurses to become a BSN, which I might add, not ONE nurse in this hospital is a BSN. I will probably be the first one even over my Nurse Manager who is "working" on it. UGH

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I think that some of the hospitals in my area TRIED to go the BSN only route BUT....there's only one college in our education district that offers a nursing program and it's ADN only. So any nurses with a BSN would have come from another area. So some of the hospitals are easing up and are hiring ADN grads again. I guess that they finally got tired of waiting for something that's not even abundantly available in our area.

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Specializes in Geriatric.

Nowadays BSN is standard. There are hospitals out there who only want nurses with MSN. There are hospitals that give nurses time to get their BSN or else.

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I took summer classes at the local community college here and compared the curriculum for the ASN program to the BSN program that I am in and there are some differences in the type of training received and classes taken. Cardiac rhythms are taught at my program which are not offered at the local community college. In addition, the BSN program participates in clinicals at the local Magnet hospital whereas the community college has simulation labs only. I think it really depends on the school you go to. Pennsylvania is phasing out ASN's completely. If you want a hospital job, you'll need your BSN.

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Specializes in Managed Care, Onc/Neph, Home Health.
I took summer classes at the local community college here and compared the curriculum for the ASN program to the BSN program that I am in and there are some differences in the type of training received and classes taken. Cardiac rhythms are taught at my program which are not offered at the local community college. In addition, the BSN program participates in clinicals at the local Magnet hospital whereas the community college has simulation labs only. I think it really depends on the school you go to. Pennsylvania is phasing out ASN's completely. If you want a hospital job, you'll need your BSN.

I appreciate your research. You are the first person who has given some type of differences in the prep as it relates to clinical in the respective programs. (BSN vs ADN) I didn't realize many ADN programs utilized the simulation labs opposed to actual clinical rotation. Maybe "not as much" clinical rotation perhaps. Still there is a difference. But I think BSN programs have similation labs too, to read monitors...ekg's and the likes too huh?? Oh yeah, what on earth is a Magnet hospital??? :banghead:

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