ADN=RN

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So, earlier today, a friend and I got into an argument. I will be starting a 2 year nursing program after my pre-reqs this fall and am thinking of just getting the BSN because of all talk about it. She is going to school for her BSN. She thinks that if you go to a tech school, you can only get your LPN and not your RN. Then, she said that even if you can get a 2 year degree, why should 2 year nurses make the same as 4 year nurses... which kind of makes me mad. Because 2 or 4, as long as your not in management pretty much do the same thing. So, now I'm thinking of just doing the liberal arts classes and then transferring to a 4 year college, because I'm sick of the whole debate. What do you think?

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yeah... sorry. i just want to prove to my friend. it just makes me mad that she'd make such a callous comment like that. like if i were to get an associates in nursing, i'd be less of a nurse than her because she would have bachelor's degree. thanks for your comments, they are much appreciated.

don't be mad. you will have the last laugh. you will be an rn 1-2 years earlier than her and will have 1-2 years rn experience before she even get licensed. plus, when you go for your rn(adn) to bsn, your employer will pay for your tuition. :smokin:

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Thanks. I forgot about the possible tuition part.

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Don't let it bother you, she is clearly wrong, so no sweat. We can't change other people's minds but we can change how we react to what other people say/do. Actually, where I live she'd be right because most places in Canada have two year LPN programs. You need a BSN to be an RN here unless you got your diploma beofre 2008.

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Awe... I was just looking up RN positions and noticed the part that says Requirement: RN

Desired: BSN

Which kind of stinks... but at least they're willing to hire ADNs.

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I saw that too in some places! but there are a lot of hospitals that wont be picky about it. I honestly dont understand why it should matter if ADN-RN. Just because its an ADN rather than BSN make them better candidates??? I dont get that part

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I saw that too in some places! but there are a lot of hospitals that wont be picky about it. I honestly dont understand why it should matter if ADN-RN. Just because its an ADN rather than BSN make them better candidates??? I dont get that part

Some employers prefer BSNs depending on the job being posted. If you are working the floor as a staff nurse, most places aren't going to be too nuts. If they are, and still complain about a shortage , it's their own fault. :)

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Yes Ive seen that places to prefer BSN!! which makes me alittle nervous since I am going for ADN also, but I can always continue and get my BSN afterwards if I wanted!! :) I guess thats the good part

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I am so glas I found this thread!! I just posted one asking if ADN=RN and if it does I dont see what the big debate is. You will be done quicker and will be taking the same Boards as a BSN would. It shouldnt matter if its ADN or BSN because we are all helping people regardless and pretty much doing the same thing. I think it should depend on your priorities and situation. good luck to you!

If one has a BA or BS already, then an ASN is not quicker than BSN. If one has no degree, the ASN can have some hefty waitlists these days due to it being so cheap.

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If one has a BA or BS already, then an ASN is not quicker than BSN. If one has no degree, the ASN can have some hefty waitlists these days due to it being so cheap.

This is even more true when it is taken into consideration that the ADN programs offen require extensive pre-reqs and co-recs that are usually taken prior to starting school. The students the CC that I did my BSN pre-reqs at spent the sane amount of time doing pre-reqs as I did.

Furthermore it's not always cheaper to go the ADN route even at community colleges. There is more aid targeted at students completing a Bachelors than an Associates, and that extends to the nursing degrees.

At first glance getting your ADN looks vastly superior to getting your BSN as an entry degree, afterall everyone takes the same boards. However, there is so much more that goes into an education than those boards can show. More (quality) education is always a good thing, and with the market being so tight in some regions the BSN is a great boost to your application. There are nearly as many BSN's graduating nowadays as there were total nurses graduated ten years ago. Surely the job market has grown inten years, but not enough to place all those grads. This instantly gives BSN students a leg up on that first hire.

Not saying a BSN prepped nurse is better than an ADN prepped nurse (every individual is different) but all things being equal who do you think a hiring manager is going to pick?

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If one has a BA or BS already, then an ASN is not quicker than BSN. If one has no degree, the ASN can have some hefty waitlists these days due to it being so cheap.

Yes, and with prerequisites plus being wait-listed, it's not always faster than a BSN when starting from scratch either. Maybe cheaper in the end, but you might not be finished two years before your friend. She still doesn't know what she's talking about and sounds like kinda a jerky friend, but rather than looking to get the last laugh on her by being done ahead of her, ignore her comments and do your thing.

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And you're getting an RN at a tech school???:)

A community college here in Connecticut was considered a "vo-tech" college, however they did offer the RN nursing program. It was called Naugtuck Valley Technical College. They have since renamed it Naugatuck Valley Community College, still carry the RN program, nothing about the RN program has changed. Only change is the name of the school. So, yes, you can get your RN schooling at a "tech" school and come out with an Associates in Nursing.

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I saw that too in some places! but there are a lot of hospitals that wont be picky about it. I honestly dont understand why it should matter if ADN-RN. Just because its an ADN rather than BSN make them better candidates??? I dont get that part

I'm sorry but what don't you get? One person went to school longer. Who would you rather hire if both people had the same experience. Someone with a bachelors degree, or an associates?

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