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Is there a ADN to BSN program that I can do credit by exam? I wouldn't be opposed to writing the occasional paper but I can't handle writing a paper every week. Don't take this post as me wanting my BSN for nothing. I just test better than write a paper.
But if you think test taking is an easy way out, then call me lazy. But we all took the NCLEX, some of us twice. That test is a ball buster & I would expect the same thing in a bachelor degree program.
OrganizedChaos, don't let people judge you who don't even know your work ethic. Just because you prefer test taking over writing papers doesn't make you lazy.
Not wanting to write papers? Who wants to write papers?
Probably every person who ever had to write one did not want to however, you have to sacrifice going where you don't want to go (writing papers) to get degrees. It's always been a part of school, probably always will. There's more that is being determined than if you can write when you write papers.
Considering the emphasis on research and EBP in a BSN program, I would have to imagine there will, in general, be an emphasis on papers more so than exams. I know that the courses in my own BSN program that are the components of the bridge program have very few exams and a lot of papers, or at least, journals or "blog" posts. Some writings were more formal than others, but regardless, it was more writing than exam-taking.
I am not personally familiar with any program that operates another way.
But if you think test taking is an easy way out, then call me lazy. But we all took the NCLEX, some of us twice. That test is a ball buster & I would expect the same thing in a bachelor degree program.
I seemed to have struck a chord. Please don't let some anonymous person's random comment on the internet bother you. If the shoe doesn't fit, don't try to cram it on your foot. I don't know anything about you, and if my comment was completely off base, then let it roll off your back and go on with your day.
Not wanting to write papers? Who wants to write papers?Probably every person who ever had to write one did not want to however, you have to sacrifice going where you don't want to go (writing papers) to get degrees. It's always been a part of school, probably always will. There's more that is being determined than if you can write when you write papers.
You're right, people hate writing papers. That's why universities have introduced non-thesis PhD programs. I never wrote long, useless papers for my 1st Bachelor's degree. Nursing programs need to come up with BSN programs that aren't just writing a bunch of fluff papers. If I wanted to write papers, I would have been a journalism major.
I seemed to have struck a chord. Please don't let some anonymous person's random comment on the internet bother you. If the shoe doesn't fit, don't try to cram it on your foot. I don't know anything about you, and if my comment was completely off base, then let it roll off your back and go on with your day.
I'm no upset, just responding to your comment.
I think a major issue is that the content required to become a Registered Nurse is covered in the associate degree programs. My associate degree program covered leadership, community, etc. Even "research" is incorporated. They have to find something else to add and usually writing papers is the main thing. Writing papers also allows the school to limit copying and the risk of two people cheating.
One thing that does bug me is that there should be a distinction between "research" and actually researching. Reading journal articles is one thing but it's kind of misleading in my opinion. Even surveys I have an issue with. When I was a psych major at my other university, we actually had to participate in research first as test subjects (yeah, they made everyone do so many hours of experiments and then we received up to 3 percentage points of extra credit for each extra experiment we participated in) in the first semester and then in our final year participate in research although what we did depended on what experiment we were assigned to and where it was in the timeline (I decided to switch my major before this class but it was a two quarters class). The experiments were pretty entertaining too. One involved reading several cases and deciding whether I thought the defendants were guilty based on the trial evidence. Another one involved typing in what I thought the computer was telling me (instead of saying Jack and Jill went up the hill it may say something like Jack and Jill went up the pill). Some of them even involved MRI scans too that the first years were able to do.
In my area, no traditional school is involved in research on the level that my old university was involved in. Although I will say I am surprised that they dropped the math from calculus for health majors down to math for liberal arts majors. It's no longer the calculus level either which is kind of sad. My old university may have had their nurses involved in similar research, I don't know.
I have wondered about the research classes, too. I actually had to take 3 research classes in my RN to BSN program. I wondered what was the big deal about reading, then writing, about something someone else researched. This was before the age of enlightenment (computers) so we had to go to the health science libraries and pull tons of stuff from professional journals. All it was, was time consuming. I had a far superior education in my ADN program.
I think a major issue is that the content required to become a Registered Nurse is covered in the associate degree programs. My associate degree program covered leadership, community, etc. Even "research" is incorporated. They have to find something else to add and usually writing papers is the main thing. Writing papers also allows the school to limit copying and the risk of two people cheating.One thing that does bug me is that there should be a distinction between "research" and actually researching. Reading journal articles is one thing but it's kind of misleading in my opinion. Even surveys I have an issue with. When I was a psych major at my other university, we actually had to participate in research first as test subjects (yeah, they made everyone do so many hours of experiments and then we received up to 3 percentage points of extra credit for each extra experiment we participated in) in the first semester and then in our final year participate in research although what we did depended on what experiment we were assigned to and where it was in the timeline (I decided to switch my major before this class but it was a two quarters class). The experiments were pretty entertaining too. One involved reading several cases and deciding whether I thought the defendants were guilty based on the trial evidence. Another one involved typing in what I thought the computer was telling me (instead of saying Jack and Jill went up the hill it may say something like Jack and Jill went up the pill). Some of them even involved MRI scans too that the first years were able to do.
In my area, no traditional school is involved in research on the level that my old university was involved in. Although I will say I am surprised that they dropped the math from calculus for health majors down to math for liberal arts majors. It's no longer the calculus level either which is kind of sad. My old university may have had their nurses involved in similar research, I don't know.
That sounds super interesting!
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But if you think test taking is an easy way out, then call me lazy. But we all took the NCLEX, some of us twice. That test is a ball buster & I would expect the same thing in a bachelor degree program.