A blatant discrimination to all filipino nurses

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The upsurge of Filipino Nurses has turned heads in New Zealand specifically in the New Zealand Nursing Council. That because the number of graduates has increased in the recents years, they are reluctant to register Filipino nurses.

David Wills (Nursing Council Director) was quoted "It is easier to get a fresh graduate from Kenya registered than someone from the Philippines."

For a nurse to be registered in New Zealand or even in Australia, he/she has to undergo a bridging program for a certain period. This is done under the watchful eye of the council therefore anyone who passes this program is legible to acquire a license to practice. This should be their gauge if the nurse has met their standards or not. It should not be based from increasing number of nurse graduates alone.

Here's the link: http://www.journal.com.ph/index.php?issue=2009-03-01&sec=1&aid=86631

Why is it that people seem to complain about having to take extra courses when going to another country to work? If you're going to another country, they don't have to accept your education and that country has every right to add to their requirements. If they see that there is a problem with graduates from a certain country they have every right to have them go through a bridge program or whatever it is that they're requiring. They're evaluation transcripts and if they feel that they don't meet the standards, it's the job of the board of nursing to make sure that they do meet the requirements.

You're absolutely right. Each country sets their own educational standards, and any nurse who wants to practice in that particular country needs to meet those standards. Just plain common sense.

Nursing boards in each country bear the responsibility of protecting their citizens from incompetent nurses, and it is prudent of them to scrutinize the education of nurses trained in other countries. It's no secret that there have been problems in the training of nurses from the Philippines the past few years. In light of these problems, no one should consider it an "insult" that a country is being especially wary. They just want to make sure their citizens are being cared for by well-educated nurses who are clinically competent.

It's also important to keep in mind that no one has the right to practice nursing in another country. It is up to the discretion of each individual country as to whether they wish to grant a nurse the privilege of working there. Unfortunately, many posters seem to think otherwise--they assume that because they have spent their time and money attending nursing school, they deserve to practice nursing in another country. Not true.

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i suggest that everyone should read this first before reacting. the senator is not protesting about how new zealand accepts foreign nurses. what he is protesting is the way these poor nurses in the news article are treated by the new rules brought upon by the new zealand nursing board.http://globalnation.inquirer.net/news/breakingnews/view/20090212-188982/New-Zealand-told-Review-rule-on-nurses

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i just noticed and wonder why everyone here is so quick to hate on Pinoy nurses. everyone already has their take (mostly negative ones) if its a Filipino nurse that is on topic.

maybe i can call the attention of Senator Estrada so that he can launch a senate investigation....:):D:up:

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Here's another link:saint:

Insult To Filipino Nurse

Good day!

I am Rommel, a Filipino nurse here in New Zealand.

I am writing with regards to the article that I have read in the New Zealand Herald. I was really hurt when society director David Wills said that, " It is easier to get a fresh nursing graduate from Kenya than from the Philippines."

Link: http://www.gmanews.tv/story/151817/Insulto-sa-Pinoy-nurses

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Here's another link:saint:

Insult To Filipino Nurse

Good day!

I am Rommel, a Filipino nurse here in New Zealand.

I am writing with regards to the article that I have read in the New Zealand Herald. I was really hurt when society director David Wills said that, " It is easier to get a fresh nursing graduate from Kenya than from the Philippines."

Link: http://www.gmanews.tv/story/151817/Insulto-sa-Pinoy-nurses

I'm not really sure why you posted that link. Of course "Rommel"--a Filipino nurse-- thinks that Filipino nurses are "the best in the world!" ;)

Maybe he's "hurt" and "insulted" that not many people agree with him these days. :(

As far as his "concern" that this situation could escalate into a political issue between New Zealand and the Philippines--I say "Bravo!" Maybe it will provide the impetus for much-needed change in the way nursing programs are being run there. Getting rid of the "puppy mills" would be a great first step in restoring the reputation of Filipino nurses around the world.

But for him to criticize the English-speaking ability of native New Zealanders certainly isn't going to win him any friends there! :banghead:

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Other countries are closely looking at the education from the Philippines...Maybe now people will see that the problem doesn't lie with the other countries. The problem is that some (not all) of these schools are graduating nurses who lack the education, and clinical experience in order to be able to work as a competent nurse. The Philippines isn't in the top tier as a whole anymore as it used to be. So for the boards of nursing from other countries to closely analyze the education and experience of these graduates should tell you that it's not descrimination against a group of people just because they're Filipino. It's because some of the schools (not all) are not producing competent (in the field of nursing) graduates. I'm not saying they're not competent as a whole, I'm sure they're intelligent as a whole. They just lack the education and skill upon graduating from nursing school. If the Philippines had rules and regulations when it comes to nursing school then they'd be producing top notch graduates like they once were. That is the reason why other countries are closely analyzing the education, and paid experience. When you have a group of schools and people who have been known to falsify documents in order to work as nurses in other countries, it's every countrys right to ensure that set these rules and regulations in order to stop the fraud. Who you should be mad at are the schools and people who are known to do this. They ruined it for everyone else, not the countries who are trying to protect their health care system.

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i suggest that everyone should read this first before reacting. the senator is not protesting about how new zealand accepts foreign nurses. what he is protesting is the way these poor nurses in the news article are treated by the new rules brought upon by the new zealand nursing board.http://globalnation.inquirer.net/news/breakingnews/view/20090212-188982/New-Zealand-told-Review-rule-on-nurses

Thanks for posting! This is definitely a better written article than the first.

Well, I realized it's difficult and risky to comment on a topic just by reading an article. We really have to be there and see the situation or at least talk directly to the people involved. Coz there is a possibility of exaggeration on the part of the media or on the part of the people involved, especially the "victim". But then, this is a forum and everybody is entitled to their own opinion.

Anyway, I stand my ground that if we want to work in another country then we must pass all the requirements they set. If we failed then sorry for us, we're not eligible to work in their country. It's their country and they have the right to set the rules.

With regards to the predicament of the "rejected" Pinoy nurses in NZ, it begs the following questions. I want to know what they are doing in NZ? I mean, maybe they were promised by someone that they can work there as a health care assistant first while completing the requirements for registration in NZ? It was their decision to go there and spend their money. Wouldn't it be wiser to just have waited here in their own country for the eligibility for registration? Were they allowed to undergo the bridging program? Coz for me, if they were allowed then they're staying in NZ is justified. From what I understand, before one can undergo the bridging program they need to pass documents coming from their nursing school, PRC and employer. When they have already passed the requirements then they will know if they can now undergo the bridging program. I don't know, these are just some of the questions running in my mind now.

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i was thinking how can someone from a below the standard nursing school able to pass the NLE..?

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Maybe, maybe Kenya have a lot of well trained nurses and maybe they did well, and they passed all the requirements to work in that country..the only reason why there is a boom of Phil nurses going to NZ is because they can't make it to US or UK, thus, NZ is the next best thing, if you feel like its a discrimination? don't take it personally. just dont go there. period.

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Spongebob, I see it all the time...Even here in the US....I've seen nursing students who cheat on exams during school and come out with A's..Would I want those people working on me or my family members?....of course not....But they've passed the NCLEX because they know how to take a test...it's easy to study a book for one exam vs studying for a whole course and many exams...I also spoke to several nurses who even said that there was speculation of cheating and exam questions were passed around or something like that....I'm unsure if it was that particular school where she graduated from, or was it the NLE....So it is possible for people who graduate from below standard nursing schools to pass the NLE, and even the NCLEX...But also ask yourself, how many time did they have to take the exam in order to pass it? Even though I'm sure that questions are mixed, but I'm sure they can still memorize questions and look up the answers for next time.

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it is an unfortunate fact that nearly all of nursing students in the philippines become nurses only with the intention of going abroad. with this upward trend, came a boom of nursing schools that popped up almost everywhere in the country. wasn't there also a controversy in 2006 about nursing board examination results in the philippines? with this i would expect credibility issues around the quality of nursing education in the philippines.

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Spongebob, I see it all the time...Even here in the US....I've seen nursing students who cheat on exams during school and come out with A's..Would I want those people working on me or my family members?....of course not....But they've passed the NCLEX because they know how to take a test...it's easy to study a book for one exam vs studying for a whole course and many exams...I also spoke to several nurses who even said that there was speculation of cheating and exam questions were passed around or something like that....I'm unsure if it was that particular school where she graduated from, or was it the NLE....So it is possible for people who graduate from below standard nursing schools to pass the NLE, and even the NCLEX...But also ask yourself, how many time did they have to take the exam in order to pass it? Even though I'm sure that questions are mixed, but I'm sure they can still memorize questions and look up the answers for next time.

passing the nle and nclex does not guarantee that a student nurse is a comptent one? i worry for myself that i may have the knowledge in nursing theories but the skills are just average.. i graduated from one of the reputable schools in manila who always land a spot in the top performing schools yet i am not super confident with my skills.. :cry::cry::cry::cry:

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