Your relationship with teachers-

[linda1959]

I think I've turned a corner in my job with regard to my relationship with teachers, and I don't mean for the better.

I work in a special ed school with a lot of behavior issues. The behavior issues greatly affect the kids in every way, especially when it comes to anxiety and acting out, which becomes a safety issue, so I am very imbedded in how things are handled in the classroom. I am a strong advocate for the students, but sometimes I have to gently confront a teacher or discuss with administration. Usually admin will be delicate and keep me out of it when dealing with it.

But today that changed. Admin had no choice but to say to the teacher what I observed. I don't blame him . . . it needs to be addressed. But I suddenly felt like I hit a turning point I have seen coming . . . I have to choose between not having teachers pissed at me, or advocating for the student. I will always choose the student.

Feel kind of sad about that, because if the teacher hadn't been so narrow and defensive in her thinking, and followed the suggestions of the behaviorists, who are right on target with this, it wouldn't have to be an issue.

Thank you for letting me vent . . . .

[GdBSN, RN]

Kuddos to you for standing strong for your student. Sometimes it's hard when you have teachers and admins scrutinizing your actions. Your students are very lucky to have you.

[Farawyn]

I have to say that I find the SPED teachers are very possessive of their students, with both good and bad outcomes.

Good job, linda!

[pixierose, BSN, RN]

Good for you for standing up for your students.

I'm a (former) SPED teacher and I've witnessed first-hand our school nurses/BCBAs intervene when a teacher was out of line. It's a difficult line to cross, and I've seen it handled with grace and finesse, and it *still* didn't go well. But it has to get done. You're there for the students, not the teachers.

Kudos, lady.

Edited to add: I post a lot here and I'm not a SN. Sorry! I shouldn't post (shrinking back to lurkdom)

[GdBSN, RN]

Good for you for standing up for your students.

I'm a (former) SPED teacher and I've witnessed first-hand our school nurses/BCBAs intervene when a teacher was out of line. It's a difficult line to cross, and I've seen it handled with grace and finesse, and it *still* didn't go well. But it has to get done. You're there for the students, not the teachers.

Kudos, lady.

Edited to add: I post a lot here and I'm not a SN. Sorry! I shouldn't post (shrinking back to lurkdom)

Post away. I know I appreciate perspectives from all nurses.

[Farawyn]

Post away. I know I appreciate perspectives from all nurses.

I think pixierose is a teacher going to nursing school. Yes? That being said, she is smart, hilarious and insightful.

pixie, you certainly don't need our permission to post here, it's a public board and an open forum, but as far as I'm concerned you are more than welcome.

Plenty of non SNs come and play with us. We're pretty awesome.

[pixierose, BSN, RN]

I think pixierose is a teacher going to nursing school. Yes? That being said, she is smart, hilarious and insightful.

pixie, you certainly don't need our permission to post here, it's a public board and an open forum, but as far as I'm concerned you are more than welcome.

Plenty of non SNs come and play with us. We're pretty awesome.

Aww, thanks Far [emoji7]. Yes, teacher going to nursing school (and with the exams this week/next week, this former teacher is going "What the double hockey sticks was I thinking????").

And double, triple, quadruple yes: you are all wicked awesome.

[OldDude]

There is a teacher in our district (fortunately not at my school) who went from school nurse, RN, to teacher at the same campus. She has become the teacher we all reference here; you would never know she used to be a school nurse

[Keepstanding, ASN, RN]

My relationship with teacher's is a Love/Hate relationship. Most teacher's are respectful for my position and thankful that I can help their students. Most. Some however are caddy, judgemental and overbearing. I have been second guessed, had many eye rolls from teachers who think they can do a better job nursing their student.

I guess really, it's like this all over when you are in the workplace. Frustrating some days though.

[MrNurse(x2), ADN]

Yes, Praiser, it is like this in acute care settings, too. You have CNA's say they can do a better job, etc. The difference is most criticisms are coming from a medical viewpoint, teachers don't have that.

[BeckyESRN]

Love/hate, for sure. I have some that are incredible. They handle minor things, their students don't abuse my office, they frequently employ the line "well, make sure you tell a grown-up about it at home". Others demand that I "do something" about a single child having just treated yesterday head lice, send me Dr. Google articles on medical conditions that they have diagnosed in their students, send me 6 students all at once who are "coughing and interrupting my thought process". These teacher may swing from one category to the next without notice.

Most days, when I can make a teacher unhappy, I know I've done what was best for the student.

[Nature_walker, ASN, BSN, RN]

I love when people stand up for the kids! I did as well which is why my administration thought I was a bulldog when it came to my kids and their rights. Those kids need you and you did the right thing standing for ones who can't always stand up for themselves! Bravo!