How Many Times Do You Have To Take A&P1 ?

blueyesue · Feb 19, 2007

Today the teacher said that whoever is getting 80% or less is going to be receiving a call from the academic counselor.

juicy_jade · Feb 20, 2007

Thank you everyone for your input. I am going to study very hard and hopefully get it right the first time.

stpauligirl · Feb 20, 2007

Thank you everyone for your input. I am going to study very hard and hopefully get it right the first time.

Good luck, study like there is no tomorrow and you will make an A

General E. Speaking, RN, RN · Feb 20, 2007

I had a horrible, horrible disgruntled prof for A&P I. Ratemyprosessor consistently gives this guy :( scores. He is sarcastic, belittled you in front of the class for asking a question and his lab tests were nightmares. (Didn't know about ratemyprofessor before signing up) Now, because of his bad rep, the college won't post his name until right before the class starts, otherwise no one would register. People were failing left and right. Yes, I passed with a "B" but I was already an LVN which helped and I worked my butt off with my nose in my A&P book every night. I had different prof for my other sciences and made A's in A&P II and Micro. I consider a B in his class an A.

I did complain, but the last time I looked he was still there.

I guess my point is that I can see why someone would retake if they had this guy...

juicy_jade · Feb 21, 2007

I had a horrible, horrible disgruntled prof for A&P I. Ratemyprosessor consistently gives this guy :( scores. He is sarcastic, belittled you in front of the class for asking a question and his lab tests were nightmares. (Didn't know about ratemyprofessor before signing up) Now, because of his bad rep, the college won't post his name until right before the class starts, otherwise no one would register. People were failing left and right. Yes, I passed with a "B" but I was already an LVN which helped and I worked my butt off with my nose in my A&P book every night. I had different prof for my other sciences and made A's in A&P II and Micro. I consider a B in his class an A.
I did complain, but the last time I looked he was still there.
I guess my point is that I can see why someone would retake if they had this guy...

Wow....schools can do that? Not post his name? Why can't they get rid of the guy and find someone that will teach and not belittle people for asking question? :trout:

P_RN, ADN, RN · Feb 21, 2007

Wow I'm glad I had the best instructors for those two classes. Chem. I could have used a little more excitement from the guy. He faced the board and wrote with his right hand while erasing with his left. Fortunately it was straight from the book.

chase4myheart · Feb 21, 2007

I'll be graduating in May from the LPN program. I took A&P 1 last semester and carried 18 credits with it. I made a B. I'm taking A&P 2 this semester and have 20 credits and still have a B average. I wish that I could devote more time to it and bring it up to an A like I have in my other nursing classes, but I just don't have the time. A&P is hard, but you can pass it the first time. It just takes time management and a lot of hard work. I can't imagine having to take these classes multiple times. Once is definitely enough.

AggieQT · Feb 22, 2007

I took A&P twice and have no guilt or problem with it and others that do the same. I made an 89.4 the first time around and it was my choice to pay more money and take more time to retake it. I am an A student. I accept nothing less than As because I know I am smart enough to make them.

The way I look at it, if I earned a B the first time, then it is my job to retake it to make an A. Why should I just throw in the towel and not try to do my best? If someone wants to retake the class 4 times then more power to them. Nursing school admissions will see that they had a hard time and it will be factored in. Just don't worry about other people and their reasons for retaking classes. You never know why the girl is sleeping in the back and as long as it does not affect your learning experience then I say leave it alone. Thats my 2cents anyways.

juicy_jade · Feb 22, 2007

I took A&P twice and have no guilt or problem with it and others that do the same. I made an 89.4 the first time around and it was my choice to pay more money and take more time to retake it. I am an A student. I accept nothing less than As because I know I am smart enough to make them.
The way I look at it, if I earned a B the first time, then it is my job to retake it to make an A. Why should I just throw in the towel and not try to do my best? If someone wants to retake the class 4 times then more power to them. Nursing school admissions will see that they had a hard time and it will be factored in. Just don't worry about other people and their reasons for retaking classes. You never know why the girl is sleeping in the back and as long as it does not affect your learning experience then I say leave it alone. Thats my 2cents anyways.

Wow...thank you for the rather arrogant reply.

Actually, it does affect my learning experience when half the class is showing up late while we are taking tests, when the instructor refers to things taught last semester, and when those people are sitting in the back giggling while we serious students are trying to learn. Yes, that is my business. I paid my tuition money to be here just like everyone else and I should not have to put up with a circus as a learning environment.

Also, people should not be allowed to take the class four times just because they want to sleep and show up halfway through class and skip lab. There are plenty of other students here that are willing to take those seats that those slackers are only wasting.

Also, I am not an expert on this or anything, but I would seriously doubt that nursing schools will factor in the fact that a person took a class several times to get a passing grade. Nursing schools are competitive and I seriously doubt that they will waste those seats on people that are going to sleep the entire time and show up late. Otherwise, anyone could get in.

Now, if you want to spend your time and money to get that A, more power to you. I do not have a problem with that, I have a problem with the slack-jawed yokels that goof off all day while wasting the precious oxygen in our classroom and taking up space. There is a difference between being a serious student and retaking a class to make an A and someone that wants to play all day. I do believe I mentioned the playing and giggling in my posts.

I am sorry if my original post rubbed you the wrong way, apparently it did. Best of luck to you. As for me, I am putting forth my best the first time around because I am not spending my time taking a class over and over for a higher grade.

Asherah, BSN, RN · Feb 22, 2007

The way I look at it, if I earned a B the first time, then it is my job to retake it to make an A. Why should I just throw in the towel and not try to do my best? If someone wants to retake the class 4 times then more power to them. Just don't worry about other people and their reasons for retaking classes. You never know why the girl is sleeping in the back and as long as it does not affect your learning experience then I say leave it alone. Thats my 2cents anyways.

I strongly disagree with this, as an individual retaking a course four times is just excessive and wasteful to other students who wish to enter the course and do well the first time. I'm sure there are often extenuating circumstances that make it reasonable for a student to retake once (e.g. family death, pregnancy, marriage, medical leave) but juicy_jade and I are speaking of those folks who just don't care how they do the first three times because they can just take it again. I know there are plenty of those folks out there, its hard to miss them giggling through class and talking about what they just bought on their last shopping outing.

As far of them affecting my learning experience, yes they absolutely do which is why I will ask them directly to be quiet or leave. Lectures and labs are for learning the material, you pay to be there...either be able to be a respectful peer and provide a conducive environment or leave. My professors have never had the tolerance for anything less.

Sidenote: I've never been in a school that will allow you retake a class if you received a B. Repeating a course is usually intended for those who received less than a passing grade originally. Clearly you tried your best the first time, you earned your grade and you took up another spot for student who could have done well. Just my :twocents:

2bNurseNik · Feb 22, 2007

This is so amazing to me. :rolleyes: I have never met anyone - ever - who would retake a class just because they wanted to. If you pass, you've passed. Why take it again. You can find time to take study on your own. There are several books you can read and study on your own time. I think it's unfair to the people who try to take the class for the first time and they can't get in because the class is full. That's just my thought.

TheCommuter, BSN, RN · Feb 22, 2007

Why should I just throw in the towel and not try to do my best? If someone wants to retake the class 4 times then more power to them.

Sorry, but this person needs to move over and allow the precious classroom space to be filled with another student who is capable of getting it right the first time around.

It is absolutely ridiculous for a person to retake any class 4 times, especially if (s)he wishes to be admitted into the nursing program. Nursing school allows you only 1 chance, so these students must learn to master the material on the first attempt.

1 retake is acceptable, but 4 retakes is comically absurd!