rn to bsn programs a scam... - page 3

Any one else feeling that rn to bsn programs are a scam.. recently have looked into 2 online rn to bsn programs from 2 state universities.. one was 20 nursing credits, the other was 27 credits.. after they went thru my... Read More

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    I skipped the BSN part, and did a bridge ADN-MSN, since I am planning on becoming a nurse-midwife anyway. I have 3 years under my belt of this program, and only one year left.
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    The honest truth is that the courses required for ADN programs only meet freshman and sophomore levels of college education. So, if you want to earn a baccalaureate degree, you'll have to take A LOT of classes to earn 300-400 level courses. Sixty or so credits would be fair and expected for this.

    When I earned my ADN, I was surprised at the simplicity of the material. This is not addressing the complexity and responsibility of nursing practice in the workplace - just the academic aspect. When I earned my RN-BSN at a state university, I could see the difference with 300-400 level courses. Each level becomes more complex.

    Instead of RN-BSN programs being a "scam" requiring too many courses, I see just the opposite. I see many programs bending over backwards to offer RNs extended credit and seamless transfers.
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    You have to think of it in terms of a Bachelor's vs an Associate's in ANY field, not just nursing. A Bachelor's degree requires more core course work than an Associate's; both in general education and in actual nursing pre-requisites. They couldn't just let you make up the difference in nursing coursework and call it a Bachelor's if you haven't met the university requirements for a Bachelor's degree. Am I making sense?
    I have previous Bachelor's and Master's degrees and took extra pre-reqs (under the assumption that I would go into a BSN program) and wound up in a really amazing and competitive ADN program. They will have an online RN-BSN program in place by the time I finish my ADN and I can simply transition flawlessly into the BSN nursing coursework. This is because I already did all of the basic Bachelor's coursework in my FIRST Bachelor's and did the extra BSN pre-reqs before starting my ADN program.

    It's not necessarily a rip off. You just have to fill in the gaps between the two basic degrees, not just the gaps between the nursing coursework in those two degrees.
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    I had similar frustration when I was searching for the "perfect" RN-BSN program. I already had three Associates degrees (yeah, really), with a total of 206 credits by the time I had my ADN/RN. I had done a lot of general ed classes in English, Sociology, History, Humanities ... you name it; I even had statistics already from my first trip through college. The schools that wanted me to take a bunch of general ed stuff? Crossed them right off the list. The program I chose in the end only required me to take things I had avoided thus far -- an upper-level sociology course and economics. The rest were nursing courses, and I felt like I actually learned something. There are good programs out there -- it just takes a lot of searching. I seriously drove myself nuts looking for a program! Take your time, find the right one if you want that BSN.
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    Quote from foreverLaur
    RN-BSN programs are all over the place. In my state alone, I have seen programs that require just 21 credit hours of nursing and another one that requires 50 credit hours of nursing.

    I've personally decided to skip RN-BSN all together and direct enter into a 2 year ACNP program when I graduate.
    Well, shoot, I totally got screwed, LOL! My LPN-BSN is 120 credit hours and I transferred in with a little over half of the 120!
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    Quote from Multicollinearity
    The honest truth is that the courses required for ADN programs only meet freshman and sophomore levels of college education. So, if you want to earn a baccalaureate degree, you'll have to take A LOT of classes to earn 300-400 level courses. Sixty or so credits would be fair and expected for this.

    When I earned my ADN, I was surprised at the simplicity of the material. This is not addressing the complexity and responsibility of nursing practice in the workplace - just the academic aspect. When I earned my RN-BSN at a state university, I could see the difference with 300-400 level courses. Each level becomes more complex.

    Instead of RN-BSN programs being a "scam" requiring too many courses, I see just the opposite. I see many programs bending over backwards to offer RNs extended credit and seamless transfers.
    Yes, very true!
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    Quote from RNLaborNurse4U
    I skipped the BSN part, and did a bridge ADN-MSN, since I am planning on becoming a nurse-midwife anyway. I have 3 years under my belt of this program, and only one year left.
    Wow, good for you!! Are you totally stressed by the classes you are taking? Or are they not as bad as you once thought?


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