Why are there no nursing jobs available for new grads? What is going on?? - page 4
by vab229 42,003 Views | 216 Comments
I just graduated from an ASN program in May and I am about to take the NCLEX next week. I do currently have a temporary new grad license... But I just want to know why are there no jobs available? I live in Rhode Island and... Read More
- 7Jun 25, '13 by nursel56 GuideQuote from DesireeRN2011Your entire post was really astute so I can see why your managers felt you were ready to handle the responsibilities of precepting. I just wanted to highlight this particular point you made as how rarely it's mentioned in discussions like these simultaneously amazes and appalls me. Thank you so much.For what it's worth, I learned SO VERY MUCH from my experienced nurse coworkers! I STILL DO. They've learned things from me too (not as much, but a different perspective provides ways for everyone to learn or teach something).
- 19Jun 25, '13 by PMFB-RNQuote from ♪♫ in my ♥*** LOL and LOL! again. Well said.With cut-throat thinking like that, though, I'm sure you'll have a fast-track to management... and will probably be scratching your head about why nurses join those nasty, evil labor unions.
- 1Jun 25, '13 by HippyDippyLPNHonestly everyone hopes the economy is going to get better...and not to be a downer but I don't think it will. I graduated HS in 2006 became an STNA a short time later and this job thing has been ****** ever since I've been a working adult. I don't see a turn around anytime soon or any big shortage of nurses so I suggest you apply everywhere and be willing to move anywhere because that's about what it takes now. It sucks but this our generations reality, we are paying for the mistakes made before us (I don't mean for this to offend anyone by the way) and we will be the rest of our lives.
- 7Jun 25, '13 by LemonAideWhat about long term care? I worked as a CNA in LTC through school and am currently 20 days from taking my NCLEX test and have been working with the grad license as a GPN since the day I got it. Long term care needs nurses and its a good way to get your foot in the door.
- 10Jun 25, '13 by brandy1017You lost all sympathy with your rude comments to layoff the old nurses just so you can have a job. Since your mom is one of those old nurses I bet she's real proud of you! Why don't you show her your great idea and tell her how you want to get rid of the older nurses who have back problems from all the lifting and need reading glasses because they hit 40 years old! You should really be ashamed of yourself! Why don't you ask your mom to give you her job and then she can retire and you can support her and see what she has to say!
But unfortunately some hospitals do lay off their older nurses focusing only on saving money as you suggested. Those hospitals will be private, non union with poor staffing and the bottom dollar trumps all. But why don't you find one of those hospitals, but just remember your turn will come too. Remember you can expect to have back problems eventually from the nature of the job, surely your mom warned you against becoming a nurse or at least let you know the many problems to expect if you work in nursing!
The only people getting early retirement these days are govt employees such as police, military or teachers. Private companies only give early retirement to the CEO's not to the regular working stiff. Hospitals are no different! If the nurses got early retirement it was probably because they were a govt hospital. Haven't you been reading the news! Many of the older baby boomers lost their retirement savings, home equity and were laid off with the bad economy. How can they retire? They are lucky to have a job and may be the only one working in their family. Also many of them are paying off student loans they took out for their children such as yourself. I bet your mom has some parent plus loans or even cosigned some of your student loans that need to be paid off, but you are suggesting older nurses like her be laid off so you can get a job. Just think what you are saying! I sure hope you don't ever become a manager because its obvious you lack ethics or perhaps even a conscience.
What should you do to find a job? Go back to where you had your clinicals and see if any of the nurses there could put in a good word for you with their boss and let you know when a job is available, don't mention the nasty comments you wrote on all nurses, though or you won't get any help! Do some research on the area hospitals and find out who the directors our for the various units and seek them out personally to get your foot in the door. Ask your mom to put in a good word for you where she works. Do what the other new grads are doing apply at many places even if you don't have experience and write a good cover letter explaining your enthusiasm to work there and what you learned from clinicals. I don't remember if you said you had your BSN or not. If not finish your BSN. You can study for CPR/BLS healthcare provider and ACLS and get those certifications while your waiting. Be prepared to relocate if necessary to find a job.
I reread your post and see you have an ASN so I suggest you work toward a BSN while your waiting. Look for the cheapest RN to BSN program you can find and enroll. Keep your grades up and then when you graduate you can put on your resume you got a 3.6 or 4. Network with the professors and clinicals during your BSN. Take advantage of the breathing space a BSN will provide you so that hopefully by the time you graduate the economy will have improved and more jobs will be available.
If you had read other new grads struggle to get work, many took 6 months to over a year to find jobs, some relocated to other states with a shortage. I've read Texas has openings or North Dakota, try Florida. California and Colorado are saturated. New York is saturated. East coast is probably harder to get jobs because their are so many colleges out east and you are competing not only with your classmates but all the other BSN grads in the area.
Many hospitals won't hire ASN's anymore, especially magnet hospitals. The trend is to demand a BSN because they can and because magnet hospitals have a goal of 80% BSN's by 2020. I've read of nurses with the ADN getting hired as RN's under the stipulation they get their BSN by 5 years.
Since you are young and in a highly competitive region, finish your BSN. Do your absolute best! Soak in and learn as much as you can! Avoid private student loans, stick to govt loans only, try not to depend on your mom taking out student loans as she needs to prepare for retirement. Govt student loans have income based repayment options that have just improved since President Obama came into office! Your mom's parent plus loans do not have these options. Just realize your poor mom could be seeing her social security garnished to pay off her student loans if she doesn't pay them off on her own before retirement.
Also take a class on personal finance while your in school. Personal Finance for Dummies by Eric Tyson is a very good all purpose book. Deal with your Debt by Liz Weston of MSN money is excellent for how to use debt as a tool and how to properly pay it off to maintain maximum flexibility.
While your in BSN school try to get a intern clinical in a specialty field like ICU. Schools have these like an extra clinical that will give you experience and an opportunity to network with the nurses and nurse manager, but you have to apply for them. They are above and beyond just a standard clinical. I hope these ideas and others mentioned by all nurses will help you calm down and find a way to get the job you want eventually. It will take patience and persistence, just don't give up!
PS Don't forget to pray for a job! Ask God to help you and asked your loved ones to pray for you for a job to open up! My dear grandma always prayed for me and when I graduated with an ADN we were told if we didn't have a job lined up by February we wouldn't get a job. I didn't have one. I didn't apply till after graduation. I went on one interview and was hired and I do believe it was my grandma's prayers that helped me get the job. We were in a bad economy then, maybe not as bad as now, but some of the nurses that were hired as new grads even relocated from another state.
St Joseph, the foster father of Jesus, is often prayed to for intercession in difficult situations. The Holy family had a difficult life, having to flee danger and find work in another country. St Joseph and the Blessed Mother are powerful intercessors in prayer! Prayer can make a difference!Last edit by brandy1017 on Jun 26, '13
- 3Jun 26, '13 by AZ_LPN_8_26_13Quote from vab229I am tapping into this discussion thread a bit late so it's probably already been mentioned, but a lot of this seems to be location - you may end up having to relocate. I am in Arizona and the hospital I work at (I've been an aide there, I just graduated) has recently hired a bunch of new nurses - exactly how many of them are new grads I cannot say. But I can tell you that here in AZ if you are a nurse you really can find employment here because of the large population of retirees and elderly here. You might not want to work in a nursing home or a SNF, but hey it's work and it's nursing. I myself am looking into eventually getting into home health care which is really big here. I went to a job fair here recently and talked to a few of these home healthcare companies and they were ready to hire LPNs and RNs right on the spot - not exaggerating. I think it boils down to where you live and what niche you are looking to fillI just graduated from an ASN program in May and I am about to take the NCLEX next week. I do currently have a temporary new grad license...
But I just want to know why are there no jobs available? I live in Rhode Island and the employment here is horrible. Almost every single hospital that does have positions available wants at least 1-2 years of med-surg experience. How are we ever supposed to get experience if we can't get a job?? Even the few and far between positions for nurses at clinics and doctor's offices want 3-5 years experience, plus specialty experience. It is downright depressing.
One of the reasons I chose the health care field was because "there would always be jobs available." That is such a lie. Whenever I tell people that I just graduated and will be an RN they always say, at least you will never be without a job! That is so false.
When I spoke with the nurses at the hospitals where I did my clinical rotations, they said they felt so bad for us and how back in the 80's hospitals were begging them to take positions and even offering sign on bonuses.
I just feel like it will be so long before I ever find a job that I won't remember half of the stuff I learned
- 1Jun 26, '13 by kalevraRelax, Breathe, ok now lets talk like adults.
The gist is that the problem is multi-fold. Not just one clean cut answer to your question. I believe everyone has covered this topic thoroughly over the past few years. So I am not gonna beat a dead horse and harp on you about it.
Lets talk solutions.
1. Hiring is all about who you know, if you are labeled as one of the favorites by HR for your cheery attitude/cherry pie/ knowledge etc. You are going to land a gig relatively fast.
2. Solution here is to suck up as much as possible to the powers that be before graduation. If you do not like the term "suck up", feel free to use the more acceptable phrase of "network". As long as it works is all that matters.
Seriously the Ex-Wife of the hospital CEO will write her own ticket into whatever department she wants. So long as she signs paperwork stating she will not ask for an increase from his monthly support checks. This is example, is real, my friend just pulled this card. She now works in NICU.
In any case, make good with important people. The world runs on favors. As my father used to say "One hand washes the other".
P.S She is an ADN. Hospitlas around here still hire ADN, you just have to know the right people.
Good luck to you.Last edit by kalevra on Jun 26, '13
- 9Jun 26, '13 by applewhiternOffer early retirement? My hospital does not provide "retirement." We have many older nurses who can run circles around some of our younger ones. We also have plenty of hospitals around here that hire ADN prepared registered nurses. You should have researched the job prospects before you started nursing school, especially in this uncertain economy. I make less money now than I did several years ago, and my insurance premiums are doubling. Older nurses are probably afraid to quit their job, because ageism is alive and well, meaning they might not get another one.
- 5Jun 26, '13 by KimbsntobeWow the OP has a lot to learn all of the ideas and comments are great...If hospitals are not hiring try something else...There are jobs out there it seems you didn't get the ideal job maybe?...close to home...near your favorite hangout and you let loose... My advice is grow up and look for a job like an adult then maybe you will find a job...You will be an experience nurse as soon as you look for a job where actual ppl are hiring...grow up and respect the nurses who you will need to hold your hand....