Why are there no nursing jobs available for new grads? What is going on?? - page 3
by vab229 39,488 Views | 216 Comments
I just graduated from an ASN program in May and I am about to take the NCLEX next week. I do currently have a temporary new grad license... But I just want to know why are there no jobs available? I live in Rhode Island and... Read More
- 17Jun 25, '13 by Ruas61Quote from vab229That is a good point you made about the older RNs who can't retire. But wouldn't it be smarter for the hospitals to lay off or offer early retirement to the older RNs and hire new RNs who I am sure will get paid a lot less than what RNs who have been working for 30+ years make, plus all their sick/vacation time they have accrued? Whoever is running the hospitals doesn't seem to be too intelligent. The hospital my mom used to work at is in shambles and half of the units are closed down. It is such a mess
My initial response would likely get this post deleted and me a bad poster note from the administrators.
Entitled have arrived. Everyone over 40 gets the boot!
What goes around, comes around.
- 32Jun 25, '13 by uRNmywayA couple things.
1) on top of the 'old biddies' passing out meds in W/C (still shaking my head at the ignorance of that comment), there are also experienced nurses looking for work. Including some on AN. So why in the world, in a terrible economy and crazy penny-pinching would a hospital hire a new grad who needs tons of training, and lets face it, for a little while at least, is kind of a liability? Dont get me wrong, we were all new once and got a chance, but dont personalize it. Just see the cost of hiring a new grad.
2) ever think that bad attitude might not help things? If you do get lucky and find work, I hope that disrespectful way of speaking of your elders, your frickin nursing TRAILBLAZERS, well, I hope you lose it real quick.
3) there ARE new grads finding work. You know who? Those who networked non stop during school. Went and met with nurse managers during clinicals. Volunteered to make their resume look good. Got extern jobs to network some more.
Ugh, see, its this kind of behavior that is responsible for so much going to crud. Expecting people to just drop everything, stand aside, and give you everything they worked hard for, just because you showed up. I dont want to live on this planet anymore....
- 25Jun 25, '13 by ♪♫ in my ♥Quote from vab229This is such a silly statement... there are jobs available... all over the place and on a regular basis... the problem is, there are 100 new grads pumped out for every new-grad position that's available.Why are there no nursing jobs available for new grads?
But I just want to know why are there no jobs available?
I don't intend this to hurt your feelings but the reality is, if you're not being considered for new grad positions then you are not a competitive candidate.
As I'm sure you can read on hundreds of threads, you need to market yourself aggressively by taking as many ongoing education classes as possible, trying to learn a foreign language, get a BSN/MSN, networking, volunteering, having a very good resume and cover letter and, to emphasize again, networking.
To be clear, networking doesn't mean that you have to know somebody in management. It simply means that you need to find someone who knows someone who knows of job openings. This is how I got my start... unposted job way in a very remote area hundreds of miles from my home, spouse, and kid. My mom happened to be having a casual conversation with a neighbor. When they started talking about their kids, my name came up along with a "he's a new nurse and is freaked because he can't find a job." The neighbor responded, "oh, I think we're looking for a new nurse. He should call abc and check."
But wouldn't it be smarter for the hospitals to lay off... the older RNs and hire new RNs
With cut-throat thinking like that, though, I'm sure you'll have a fast-track to management... and will probably be scratching your head about why nurses join those nasty, evil labor unions.
But wouldn't it be smarter for the hospitals to... offer early retirement to the older RNs and hire new RNs
- 15Jun 25, '13 by DesireeRN2011There ARE nursing jobs out there. Just not where or what you "want".
Original poster - out of school since May with no job yet? Over two years ago I was out of school MUCH longer (6 mos or more) without a job. Some of my classmates, WAY longer than that even. I started applying for jobs, internships/new grad residency programs, something ridiculous, like October of the fall before I graduated! At one point, I was applying to 25+ jobs per day as a new grad. I applied all over half the US. The options that bit first, were not my "ideal" job. But I interviewed, interviewed some more, and interviewed again. I got a job offer! And moved hours away from home to work. It wasn't perfect, wasn't my "fit". I knew it relatively soon after starting work that I would not make a career of it. I went to work, did my best to take care of my patients to the best of my ability and learn as much as I could.
It's the economy. It's that certain regions are SATURATED with qualified experienced nurses and/or more highly qualified than you. Other new grad candidates may have a BSN, or have worked in the hospital system, or have other skills/experience that makes them seem more attractive on paper. I say that because the qualifications on paper doesn't always mean a good option.
Calm down and check the attitude like now would be the other thing I have to say. It may not be easy, not everything will be in life. If it was, there would be no incentive to try. I wasn't a huge fan of my first job, but I did it. And I did it well. I didn't talk back to coworkers, I didn't run my mouth about having a BSN (vs others who did not), I didn't act out in any way. I went to work, handled my business, did my best, asked questions...and it worked for me. I helped others, and treated others the way I wanted them to treat me.
For what it's worth, I learned SO VERY MUCH from my experienced nurse coworkers! I STILL DO. They've learned things from me too (not as much, but a different perspective provides ways for everyone to learn or teach something). I've recently been given several assignments that included precepting someone (one was a nurse with experience, the other was a new grad). It's nice knowing that (according to the bosses/our charges/our managers) I know enough and practice safely enough to help educate someone newer than I, but at the same time, I feel like there is so very much for me to learn! My assessment of myself isn't what others say (today a supervisor said something to me about how well I handled something that experienced nurses don't always handle well).
I would take a fine tooth comb over my resume and cover letter. I would make sure to either take thank you cards with you for interviews or mail them (if you don't have the address a follow up email can express interest and gratitude). Sell yourself well. The attitude displayed in some of the posts I have seen in this thread from the OP - you need to make sure you sell yourself as a team player and willing and eager to learn. When you have interviews, make sure you have practiced thinking through answers for potential questions and can articulate yourself well, that is your chance to sell yourself!
For what it's worth - the comment about needing a magnifying glass to read labels/pass meds? I find it offensive. I'm in my mid-20s. My vision, uncorrected, is BAD. Corrected it's not perfect, but workable. I'm thankful my vision corrects as well as it does. Some people aren't so lucky! I once had perfect vision (it's been probably 15+ years since I had vision that didn't need corrected), but as it's gotten worse for me, I have learned a great deal about how important sight is and can better empathize with my patients...
Also. Loans. If you work with your bank, they are understanding of the economy, struggle to get/find a job. But you have to put the effort in. It won't just fall into place.
- 9Jun 25, '13 by megan005First I just want to say there are nursing jobs out there, maybe not in specialty areas or even in hospitals but they are out there.I'm a new grad I graduated in April and every day since my last exam I put at least 8 hours a day into looking for jobs, filling out applications calling unit managers and going to job fairs and I found a job.
Finding a job for anyone in this economy is hard, but the nurses who already have jobs and have been working for 20 years its not their fault New Grads can't find jobs.
If anything hopefully the new grads now will learn from this and start putting 10-15% of their paychecks away for their own retirement and learn to live off the rest... we're learning the hard way what the effect of living outside our means can have on future generations lets not do the same to our children.
- 12Jun 25, '13 by calivianyaUnemployment is definitely regional - most of my graduating class has jobs. We graduated last month. Now, the people who don't have jobs are the people who didn't work as CNAs during nursing school or who can't move. Those of us that have jobs are typically people who worked as CNAs and who applied out of state when in state hospitals didn't call us back.
Point being: if you went out of your way to get experience in school you have a leg up and if you are willing to move you have a leg up. The place I got hired at hired me for my dream ICU job, but it's in the rural South in an area I never would have dreamed of moving to in a million years. They also happen to be building a brand new ICU tower and doubling the size of their ICUs... sometimes you have to make sacrifices, especially in a field like nursing. The question just becomes what exactly you are willing to sacrifice - are you going to sacrifice your location for a dream job, or are you going to sacrifice your job and stay unemployed so you don't have to move? It's up to you. The jobs are out there if you're willing to chase them.
- 12Jun 25, '13 by FLNurseGuyThe hospitals are the big dogs. Right now and in this economy the big dogs can have their way. The really big hospitals that buy out other area hospitals to include them in their own system can for example,...decide to change the name of the from "XYZ HOSPITAL SYSTEM to XYZ HEALTH SYSTEM....at a cost of millions and then cut RN pay across the board a dollar an hour to pay for it. Not to mention cutting nurse education programs to educate and train new grad nurses or requiring bachelors degree for staff nurses or masters degrees for nurse managers. Not too long ago things were different and sign on bonuses for even new grads were out there. I hope things will change very soon for us new nurse grads. It's not the fault of the older nurses. It's the economy and current hospital administration priorities. The older nurses have a huge wealth of experience that I would give anything to be able to learn from. A lot of those older nurses are tough. They hung in and stuck with it when a lot of younger nurses couldn't hack it. Once I'm lucky enough to find a job....give me an older RN preceptor! To all of us new RN grads looking for their first job.....GOOD LUCK!
- 27Jun 25, '13 by PMFB-RNQuote from vab229*** The job market for nurses, in particular new grads, was terrable before you even started your program. How much did you look into the employment prospects before you chose to invest your time and money into becomeing a nurse?I just graduated from an ASN program in May and I am about to take the NCLEX next week. I do currently have a temporary new grad license...
But I just want to know why are there no jobs available? I live in Rhode Island and the employment here is horrible. Almost every single hospital that does have positions available wants at least 1-2 years of med-surg experience. How are we ever supposed to get experience if we can't get a job?? Even the few and far between positions for nurses at clinics and doctor's offices want 3-5 years experience, plus specialty experience. It is downright depressing.
One of the reasons I chose the health care field was because "there would always be jobs available." That is such a lie.
- 10Jun 25, '13 by PMFB-RNQuote from GrnTea*** Really only part of the story. The bad economy didn't creat the glut of nurses, it only moved glut day ahead a few years. The glut of nurses was intentionaly created by those who stand to gain financialy from a glut of nurses. Whats worse in my view is that they used nurses tax money to creat the glut. They lobbied state and federal goverment for tax payer funds to greatly expand the available seats in nursing programs.In the immortal words of Bill Clinton, "It's the economy, stupid.".