Why are there no nursing jobs available for new grads? What is going on?? - page 3

I just graduated from an ASN program in May and I am about to take the NCLEX next week. I do currently have a temporary new grad license... But I just want to know why are there no jobs... Read More

  1. Visit  calivianya profile page
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    Unemployment is definitely regional - most of my graduating class has jobs. We graduated last month. Now, the people who don't have jobs are the people who didn't work as CNAs during nursing school or who can't move. Those of us that have jobs are typically people who worked as CNAs and who applied out of state when in state hospitals didn't call us back.

    Point being: if you went out of your way to get experience in school you have a leg up and if you are willing to move you have a leg up. The place I got hired at hired me for my dream ICU job, but it's in the rural South in an area I never would have dreamed of moving to in a million years. They also happen to be building a brand new ICU tower and doubling the size of their ICUs... sometimes you have to make sacrifices, especially in a field like nursing. The question just becomes what exactly you are willing to sacrifice - are you going to sacrifice your location for a dream job, or are you going to sacrifice your job and stay unemployed so you don't have to move? It's up to you. The jobs are out there if you're willing to chase them.
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  2. Visit  FLNurseGuy profile page
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    The hospitals are the big dogs. Right now and in this economy the big dogs can have their way. The really big hospitals that buy out other area hospitals to include them in their own system can for example,...decide to change the name of the from "XYZ HOSPITAL SYSTEM to XYZ HEALTH SYSTEM....at a cost of millions and then cut RN pay across the board a dollar an hour to pay for it. Not to mention cutting nurse education programs to educate and train new grad nurses or requiring bachelors degree for staff nurses or masters degrees for nurse managers. Not too long ago things were different and sign on bonuses for even new grads were out there. I hope things will change very soon for us new nurse grads. It's not the fault of the older nurses. It's the economy and current hospital administration priorities. The older nurses have a huge wealth of experience that I would give anything to be able to learn from. A lot of those older nurses are tough. They hung in and stuck with it when a lot of younger nurses couldn't hack it. Once I'm lucky enough to find a job....give me an older RN preceptor! To all of us new RN grads looking for their first job.....GOOD LUCK!
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  3. Visit  PMFB-RN profile page
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    Quote from vab229
    I just graduated from an ASN program in May and I am about to take the NCLEX next week. I do currently have a temporary new grad license...
    But I just want to know why are there no jobs available? I live in Rhode Island and the employment here is horrible. Almost every single hospital that does have positions available wants at least 1-2 years of med-surg experience. How are we ever supposed to get experience if we can't get a job?? Even the few and far between positions for nurses at clinics and doctor's offices want 3-5 years experience, plus specialty experience. It is downright depressing.
    One of the reasons I chose the health care field was because "there would always be jobs available." That is such a lie.
    *** The job market for nurses, in particular new grads, was terrable before you even started your program. How much did you look into the employment prospects before you chose to invest your time and money into becomeing a nurse?
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  4. Visit  PMFB-RN profile page
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    Quote from GrnTea
    In the immortal words of Bill Clinton, "It's the economy, stupid.".
    *** Really only part of the story. The bad economy didn't creat the glut of nurses, it only moved glut day ahead a few years. The glut of nurses was intentionaly created by those who stand to gain financialy from a glut of nurses. Whats worse in my view is that they used nurses tax money to creat the glut. They lobbied state and federal goverment for tax payer funds to greatly expand the available seats in nursing programs.
  5. Visit  nursel56 profile page
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    Quote from DesireeRN2011
    For what it's worth, I learned SO VERY MUCH from my experienced nurse coworkers! I STILL DO. They've learned things from me too (not as much, but a different perspective provides ways for everyone to learn or teach something).
    Your entire post was really astute so I can see why your managers felt you were ready to handle the responsibilities of precepting. I just wanted to highlight this particular point you made as how rarely it's mentioned in discussions like these simultaneously amazes and appalls me. Thank you so much.
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  6. Visit  PMFB-RN profile page
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    Quote from ♪♫ in my ♥
    With cut-throat thinking like that, though, I'm sure you'll have a fast-track to management... and will probably be scratching your head about why nurses join those nasty, evil labor unions.
    *** LOL and LOL! again. Well said.
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  7. Visit  HippyDippyLPN profile page
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    Honestly everyone hopes the economy is going to get better...and not to be a downer but I don't think it will. I graduated HS in 2006 became an STNA a short time later and this job thing has been ****** ever since I've been a working adult. I don't see a turn around anytime soon or any big shortage of nurses so I suggest you apply everywhere and be willing to move anywhere because that's about what it takes now. It sucks but this our generations reality, we are paying for the mistakes made before us (I don't mean for this to offend anyone by the way) and we will be the rest of our lives.
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  8. Visit  LemonAide profile page
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    What about long term care? I worked as a CNA in LTC through school and am currently 20 days from taking my NCLEX test and have been working with the grad license as a GPN since the day I got it. Long term care needs nurses and its a good way to get your foot in the door.
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  9. Visit  brandy1017 profile page
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    You lost all sympathy with your rude comments to layoff the old nurses just so you can have a job. Since your mom is one of those old nurses I bet she's real proud of you! Why don't you show her your great idea and tell her how you want to get rid of the older nurses who have back problems from all the lifting and need reading glasses because they hit 40 years old! You should really be ashamed of yourself! Why don't you ask your mom to give you her job and then she can retire and you can support her and see what she has to say!

    But unfortunately some hospitals do lay off their older nurses focusing only on saving money as you suggested. Those hospitals will be private, non union with poor staffing and the bottom dollar trumps all. But why don't you find one of those hospitals, but just remember your turn will come too. Remember you can expect to have back problems eventually from the nature of the job, surely your mom warned you against becoming a nurse or at least let you know the many problems to expect if you work in nursing!

    The only people getting early retirement these days are govt employees such as police, military or teachers. Private companies only give early retirement to the CEO's not to the regular working stiff. Hospitals are no different! If the nurses got early retirement it was probably because they were a govt hospital. Haven't you been reading the news! Many of the older baby boomers lost their retirement savings, home equity and were laid off with the bad economy. How can they retire? They are lucky to have a job and may be the only one working in their family. Also many of them are paying off student loans they took out for their children such as yourself. I bet your mom has some parent plus loans or even cosigned some of your student loans that need to be paid off, but you are suggesting older nurses like her be laid off so you can get a job. Just think what you are saying! I sure hope you don't ever become a manager because its obvious you lack ethics or perhaps even a conscience.

    What should you do to find a job? Go back to where you had your clinicals and see if any of the nurses there could put in a good word for you with their boss and let you know when a job is available, don't mention the nasty comments you wrote on all nurses, though or you won't get any help! Do some research on the area hospitals and find out who the directors our for the various units and seek them out personally to get your foot in the door. Ask your mom to put in a good word for you where she works. Do what the other new grads are doing apply at many places even if you don't have experience and write a good cover letter explaining your enthusiasm to work there and what you learned from clinicals. I don't remember if you said you had your BSN or not. If not finish your BSN. You can study for CPR/BLS healthcare provider and ACLS and get those certifications while your waiting. Be prepared to relocate if necessary to find a job.

    I reread your post and see you have an ASN so I suggest you work toward a BSN while your waiting. Look for the cheapest RN to BSN program you can find and enroll. Keep your grades up and then when you graduate you can put on your resume you got a 3.6 or 4. Network with the professors and clinicals during your BSN. Take advantage of the breathing space a BSN will provide you so that hopefully by the time you graduate the economy will have improved and more jobs will be available.

    If you had read other new grads struggle to get work, many took 6 months to over a year to find jobs, some relocated to other states with a shortage. I've read Texas has openings or North Dakota, try Florida. California and Colorado are saturated. New York is saturated. East coast is probably harder to get jobs because their are so many colleges out east and you are competing not only with your classmates but all the other BSN grads in the area.

    Many hospitals won't hire ASN's anymore, especially magnet hospitals. The trend is to demand a BSN because they can and because magnet hospitals have a goal of 80% BSN's by 2020. I've read of nurses with the ADN getting hired as RN's under the stipulation they get their BSN by 5 years.

    Since you are young and in a highly competitive region, finish your BSN. Do your absolute best! Soak in and learn as much as you can! Avoid private student loans, stick to govt loans only, try not to depend on your mom taking out student loans as she needs to prepare for retirement. Govt student loans have income based repayment options that have just improved since President Obama came into office! Your mom's parent plus loans do not have these options. Just realize your poor mom could be seeing her social security garnished to pay off her student loans if she doesn't pay them off on her own before retirement.

    Also take a class on personal finance while your in school. Personal Finance for Dummies by Eric Tyson is a very good all purpose book. Deal with your Debt by Liz Weston of MSN money is excellent for how to use debt as a tool and how to properly pay it off to maintain maximum flexibility.

    While your in BSN school try to get a intern clinical in a specialty field like ICU. Schools have these like an extra clinical that will give you experience and an opportunity to network with the nurses and nurse manager, but you have to apply for them. They are above and beyond just a standard clinical. I hope these ideas and others mentioned by all nurses will help you calm down and find a way to get the job you want eventually. It will take patience and persistence, just don't give up!

    PS Don't forget to pray for a job! Ask God to help you and asked your loved ones to pray for you for a job to open up! My dear grandma always prayed for me and when I graduated with an ADN we were told if we didn't have a job lined up by February we wouldn't get a job. I didn't have one. I didn't apply till after graduation. I went on one interview and was hired and I do believe it was my grandma's prayers that helped me get the job. We were in a bad economy then, maybe not as bad as now, but some of the nurses that were hired as new grads even relocated from another state.

    St Joseph, the foster father of Jesus, is often prayed to for intercession in difficult situations. The Holy family had a difficult life, having to flee danger and find work in another country. St Joseph and the Blessed Mother are powerful intercessors in prayer! Prayer can make a difference!
    Last edit by brandy1017 on Jun 26, '13
  10. Visit  AZ_LPN_8_26_13 profile page
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    Quote from vab229
    I just graduated from an ASN program in May and I am about to take the NCLEX next week. I do currently have a temporary new grad license...
    But I just want to know why are there no jobs available? I live in Rhode Island and the employment here is horrible. Almost every single hospital that does have positions available wants at least 1-2 years of med-surg experience. How are we ever supposed to get experience if we can't get a job?? Even the few and far between positions for nurses at clinics and doctor's offices want 3-5 years experience, plus specialty experience. It is downright depressing.
    One of the reasons I chose the health care field was because "there would always be jobs available." That is such a lie. Whenever I tell people that I just graduated and will be an RN they always say, at least you will never be without a job! That is so false.
    When I spoke with the nurses at the hospitals where I did my clinical rotations, they said they felt so bad for us and how back in the 80's hospitals were begging them to take positions and even offering sign on bonuses.
    I just feel like it will be so long before I ever find a job that I won't remember half of the stuff I learned
    I am tapping into this discussion thread a bit late so it's probably already been mentioned, but a lot of this seems to be location - you may end up having to relocate. I am in Arizona and the hospital I work at (I've been an aide there, I just graduated) has recently hired a bunch of new nurses - exactly how many of them are new grads I cannot say. But I can tell you that here in AZ if you are a nurse you really can find employment here because of the large population of retirees and elderly here. You might not want to work in a nursing home or a SNF, but hey it's work and it's nursing. I myself am looking into eventually getting into home health care which is really big here. I went to a job fair here recently and talked to a few of these home healthcare companies and they were ready to hire LPNs and RNs right on the spot - not exaggerating. I think it boils down to where you live and what niche you are looking to fill
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  11. Visit  kalevra profile page
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    Relax, Breathe, ok now lets talk like adults.

    The gist is that the problem is multi-fold. Not just one clean cut answer to your question. I believe everyone has covered this topic thoroughly over the past few years. So I am not gonna beat a dead horse and harp on you about it.

    Lets talk solutions.

    1. Hiring is all about who you know, if you are labeled as one of the favorites by HR for your cheery attitude/cherry pie/ knowledge etc. You are going to land a gig relatively fast.

    2. Solution here is to suck up as much as possible to the powers that be before graduation. If you do not like the term "suck up", feel free to use the more acceptable phrase of "network". As long as it works is all that matters.

    Seriously the Ex-Wife of the hospital CEO will write her own ticket into whatever department she wants. So long as she signs paperwork stating she will not ask for an increase from his monthly support checks. This is example, is real, my friend just pulled this card. She now works in NICU.

    In any case, make good with important people. The world runs on favors. As my father used to say "One hand washes the other".

    P.S She is an ADN. Hospitlas around here still hire ADN, you just have to know the right people.

    Good luck to you.
    Last edit by kalevra on Jun 26, '13
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  12. Visit  elprup profile page
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    Sigh. After reading the four pages of posts I changed my mind.
    Last edit by elprup on Jun 26, '13 : Reason: Changed my mind
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  13. Visit  applewhitern profile page
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    Offer early retirement? My hospital does not provide "retirement." We have many older nurses who can run circles around some of our younger ones. We also have plenty of hospitals around here that hire ADN prepared registered nurses. You should have researched the job prospects before you started nursing school, especially in this uncertain economy. I make less money now than I did several years ago, and my insurance premiums are doubling. Older nurses are probably afraid to quit their job, because ageism is alive and well, meaning they might not get another one.
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