Quote from italia23
i mean i really don't want to sound rude you know? but there are so many ma's out there claiming their "nurses" and unfortunately i don't think that a lot of doctors even know what they can and can not do. it is unfortunate that i went to an ma school before nursing school because it was almost like they brainwash you into believing an ma is equal to a nurse. i'm not talking about like "ranking" or "who is better than who" what i am talking about is job role and responsibility. it is going to be sad but sooner or later the lack of traning and education is going to seriously injure a pt. again, i am not saying that ma's are a waste because i don't feel that. but they should really be taught that no they are not nurses. if there was an emergency they wouldn't even know how to respond. they aren't allowed to do assessments/data collection. when you go to the doctors office you deserve to have a nurse taking care of you. i just think that esp in my state which is ny they should make all ma's front office or phlebotomy only. they can't assess. they can't administer medication, they can't give medical advice and yet some are. and they are calling themselves nurses. it just isn't right. people's lives are at stake here. it isn't about titles and pay grade. it's about taking care of people. nurses operate on their own lisence. ma's operate on the doctors lisence. i am actually suprised at how many doctors are willing to risk their credentials to save a few bucks. how does everyone else feel?????
i am a cma in nc. i do agree that a cma should never call themselves a nurse but most people call me that anyway and i do correct them but they don't care. i also have an associate's degree, not a diploma. i have two year's worth of education from everything to symptomatology, lab procedures, administration, and managerial skills to name a few. i can do anything, in nc, that a md will allow me to do since we practice under their liscense but it is my ethical responsibility, as should be yours, that if you are not trained or compentent that you should not do what is being asked of you. i give injections constantly in my office, in fact i give them more than the lpn's here and it is legal. this varies greatly by state and we are not governed or associated in any way with the state bon.
as far as emergencies there is a doctor in the office at all times so i just go get a doctor. i have also had cpr and first aid so i do know how to handle an emergency. if i know our office can't help them then i tell the pt. to go to urgent care or the er(specialty office we only treat certain conditions).
doctors created the ma role because they wanted to hire people that could work the entire office if need be. i was taught billing, scheduling, coding, transcription, navigating emr all that stuff as well as pharmacology, phlebotomy, clia waived testing and more. we were not however taught anything about care plans
and i really have no idea what they are but from what i can tell they are nursing diagnoses which, from my understanding we don't need to do, because that is what the doctor will do since we are in an office setting. we can, but generally do not, work in hosptials or nursing homes.
we are meant to be able to walk in the office on the first day and be able to do everything with very minimal training and some of us can. we mainly have to learn the doctor's preference with procedures and such. with all that being said i am going for my rn (if i get accepted this year) because i am bored to death in an office setting. cma's and lpn's make about the same pay here they may get fifty cents more per hour. just thought i would shed a little light.