Overtime rules pass House - page 3

New overtime rules have passed the house and will now go to the Senate for a vote.... Read More

  1. by   EmeraldNYL
    Wow, this really sucks. I can't wait until we get GWB out of office!!!! I'm definitely not working overtime if I don't get paid time and a half.
  2. by   Milehighnurse
    I've had some interesting discussions with other people, non-nursing personnel, and the same theme keeps coming up-did the brain child of this proposal, and the other bills targeting O.T.(yes there are more out there), think about the economic impact this will have on the communities and the businesses where we spend our money? If passed, this will affect more than just us.
  3. by   NRSKarenRN
    A group of 10 national nursing groups representing about 400,000 nurses has asked the US Labor Department to treat their profession differently from other professional job categories when it issues new regulations that could strip some white-collar workers of the right to overtime pay.

    Boston Globe, July 10, 2003
    http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/19...ime_pay+.shtml
  4. by   Geeg
    Once this goes into effect, I won't be caught dead working any overtime.
  5. by   geekgolightly
    Originally posted by Geeg
    Once this goes into effect, I won't be caught dead working any overtime.
    ditto
  6. by   live4today
    Originally posted by colleen10
    .............what company in their right mind will hire more workers, thus increasing their cost of operation when they can just have their current employees work extra and not pay them over-time?
    There ya go! That sentence says more than anything else when it comes to that bill. Employers will be getting the bennies of having employees working overtime knowing they won't have to pay them for it. I say, it's time for nurses to start using their voices to bring down this stinking thinking that will ruin us.
  7. by   -jt
    <I'm definitely not working overtime if I don't get paid time and a half.>

    We all will be working overtime and not getting paid for it - unless we quit the job. We just wont be volunteering for it. We'll be mandated.
    Cant you just hear it:
    "Anybody want to stay another 4 hrs?".....
    "We dont get time and a half anymore, so no thanks".....
    "OK, if nobody is volunteering for the OT, then youre being mandated to do it. At straight-time pay."

    If you dont have a union contract protecting you from this, the only way out of it is to quit. Doesnt it seem like they keep coming up with ways to ensure that they eventually have no RNs at all?
  8. by   EmeraldNYL
    Originally posted by -jt
    [BIf you dont have a union contract protecting you from this, the only way out of it is to quit. Doesnt it seem like they keep coming up with ways to ensure that they eventually have no RNs at all? [/B]
    I agree jt. It will totally worsen the nursing shortage but it will hurt lots of other professions as well. It will definitely decrease consumer spending; lots of people work overtime to buy those nice little extras. Interestingly enough though, the 2 union hospitals in my area BOTH have mandatory overtime, and the hospital I am going to be working for, which is non-union, does not.
  9. by   Milehighnurse
    Originally posted by NRSKarenRN
    A group of 10 national nursing groups representing about 400,000 nurses has asked the US Labor Department to treat their profession differently from other professional job categories when it issues new regulations that could strip some white-collar workers of the right to overtime pay.

    Boston Globe, July 10, 2003
    http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/19...ime_pay+.shtml
    I got the impression that our profession was being more vocal about our concerns if this law goes into affect. This law will also affect the police/ fire depts and numerous other "professions" if the Dept. of Labor has it's way.
    I did find Tammy Mc Crutchen's statement, in reference to public comments, " we will review the comments and make any changes that we think are appropriate" was rather hilarious. What they thought were "appropriate changes" is what go this whole mess started in the first place.
  10. by   Cynthiann
    I check to see how my representative voted and I'm very disappointed to see he voted NO. Will soon be sending him a letter expressing my disappointment. And I will also contact my senators.

    Does anyone have a link to what the bill is called and what it all consist of?
  11. by   Milehighnurse
    Originally posted by EmeraldNYL
    I agree jt. It will totally worsen the nursing shortage but it will hurt lots of other professions as well. It will definitely decrease consumer spending; lots of people work overtime to buy those nice little extras.
    Yes ma'am, it will! It just amazes me that the DOL didn't do, or didn't look at, a feesibilty study on the economic impact that this will have on business, large and small. Middle class America IS the backbone of this country and if they take our money away it WILL impact retail business and eventually the global market. You know what would be a nice message to the DOL? Ask middle class America to not spend extra $$ for one week, just buy the necessities, and let them see how the retail market responds. Retail took a bad hit after 9/11 when people stayed home out of fear. Do they remember? Apparently not.
  12. by   Catsrule16
    OK... Here is the letter I sent to my Senators. Don't know if it will help...

    "A bill recently passed in the House regarding overtime. I am a member of a group of people that was included in those that should be excempt from being eligble for overtime.

    I am a NURSE. A professional by education, however, skilled labor by the job tasks I perform. Part of my job description includes being able to do a list of physical jobs that could injure and/or permanently disable me at any given time. I am the front line worker who is the buffer between the patient and the management. I am scrutinized by the very people I am trying to help and given little praise for doing a job well.I am a NURSE.

    I work on a floor where the nurse to patient ratio is 1 to 8. It's 2 AM and i have been home for maybe 30 minutes. I should have gotten off at 11PM but because of circumstances beyond my control, I didn't. A patient (a voter) died. It took the entire staff of 6 on the floor with 32 patients and 4 other people to get the patient out of the chair and back into bed to be able to perform CPR on him. 31 other patients didn't have their needs met because we were busy. Our one saving grace was knowing we would get paid to stay over to make sure their needs were met even if they were late. Now the grace is threatened.

    I beg of you as a receiver and provider of healthcare services, DO NOT vote in favor or the bill. Maybe an ammendment to the bill to include an organizational chart as to what level of care provided to patients could be eligble for overtime.

    Respectfully:

    Margaret, RNC"
  13. by   -jt
    <Does anyone have a link to what the bill is called and what it all consist of?>


    bill to amend the Fair Labor Standards Act to change the job description and duties, income limits and other qualifications for overtime pay protections. click on the bill numbers at:
    http://www.nysna.org/programs/leg/alert_2.htm

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