Concealed Carry...as a nurse? - page 16

With the current news over gun control and gun rights legislation being pushed through Congress as a result of the tragedies of Aurora, CO, Newtown, CT and the others like them, the thought of... Read More

  1. Visit  ayla2004 profile page
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    I live in th UK now in England but originally from northern Ireland. I hate guns and am for tight gun control which we have. However organised crime still will get hold of guns. It's strange I live in an inner city area which has gun and knife crime in a WYoming worse than northern Ireland (Manchester). I like that police in England are not armed despite in recent year 2 occasions were armed cops may have saved lives. I feel the less guns in circulation the better.

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  2. Visit  bugya90 profile page
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    I have my CHL. I live in Texas I do not carry at work as it is against policy for employees other than security to carry. I work at a clinic which is not protected under the 30.06 law since it is not a hospital so the patients can carry though they are strongly encouraged not to and that we have the right to refuse service as we are not an emergency room. There have been several times when myself and the other 20 CHL holders (both nurses and doctors) have felt that our one security guard would not be enough if we had an active shooter. We were actually told by our director what she didn't know wouldn't hurt her directly meaning if she can't see the gun or its in the car she won't say anything. I have never drawn my weapon but there have been times late at night at gas stations that I felt threatened enough to keep my hand on the handle in case I did need to use it. Criminals don't follow laws which is why I felt the need for a gun in the first place. In my hometown of 3000 people we had 8 officers. Those officers were amazing at their job but they can't be everywhere at once, it's the same with the security at work.
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  3. Visit  AlaskaHopeful profile page
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    In regards to my earlier post, of 2.4 deaths per 100,000 I was mistaken. It is 4 deaths per 100,000. Keep in mind that Alaska is 1/3 the size of the lower 48.

    Alaska's contradiction? Lots of guns, few homicides | Alaska Dispatch
    Last edit by AlaskaHopeful on Apr 4, '13 : Reason: capitalization
  4. Visit  billyboblewis profile page
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    As far as I know firearms have only one use and are designed to cause injury of varying degree. People and the other items you speak of are used for many different and positive things the majority of the time.
  5. Visit  billyboblewis profile page
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    I guess I have missed out on something in life. In my fifty adult years I have worked in all areas of many cities and rural locations and never felt the need to carry a firearm. This includes many jobs where all the work was done in the worst areas of town..ie the hood.
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  6. Visit  bugya90 profile page
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    Billybob you have obviously never been a small sized female surrounded by 6 foot guys hasselling you and/or trying to rape you. That one scary moment gave me all the push I needed to officially take the CHL class and carry a weapon at all times I can. If someone ever attempts to assault me again I will have protection. You can't call 911 when the thugs take your phone.
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  7. Visit  billyboblewis profile page
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    It is unfortunate you got into that position. I would take steps to make sure that it did not happen again.
  8. Visit  bugya90 profile page
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    What steps would that be??? Magically growing 2 feet??? I took a step its called a gun, a can of mace only had enough for 1-2 predators, most guns hold 6-8 bullets. Simple math wins.
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  9. Visit  akulahawkRN profile page
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    Quote from billyboblewis
    It is unfortunate you got into that position. I would take steps to make sure that it did not happen again.
    You can only control some things. You can not control the actions of another person that has no allegiance to you. Even then, you can only control their actions with their consent only. I can pretty much guarantee that 6 normal-sized males can overpower one normal-sized female with relative ease.

    When I carry, I don't go anywhere armed that I didn't go unarmed. Why? I'm not a cop. I'm only responsible for my own safety and that of my family. Period. If I'm lucky enough to be able to call 911, they still won't be able to get to me fast enough to make a difference. The fight, should there be one, will be long-over by the time they get there.

    Even as a relatively not so small male, I can still strongly articulate sufficient disparity of force when confronted with several other males that I would be completely justified drawing and firing in self-defense, should I feel sufficiently threatened, even if those other males are unarmed.

    I would greatly enjoy it if there weren't any need for any weapons... anywhere. Unfortunately, even a rock can be a deadly weapon if used correctly. We don't live in that idealistic world where there are no weapons and there's nothing but peace.

    The person you said that to could change her route to and from her car, to and from work, pack-up with friends/co-workers, and the like... but she can't always count on that even being possible. She can even take martial arts classes... all that helps. All that avoidance stuff goes out the window when 6 guys corner her in an area that's not well lit or well covered by cameras (which would record the whole event without changing the outcome) and overpower her.

    Bad guys only have to succeed once to get what they want. You have to succeed 100% of the time to ensure they don't get it from you. And a good defense involves layers. You want to make yourself unappealing as a target. They'll go after someone else who will be easy prey.

    It's sad, but that's the way things are, and have been for a long time. I wish it wasn't that way.
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  10. Visit  classicdame profile page
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    I live in Texas and know many nurses and others with concealed guns. Not me.
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  11. Visit  ♪♫ in my ♥ profile page
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    Quote from billyboblewis
    It is unfortunate you got into that position. I would take steps to make sure that it did not happen again.
    Hmmm... smacks of the 'blame the victim' mentality.

    It sounds like she has taken a big step to make sure that it does not happen again... providing herself with the means to defend herself.
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  12. Visit  CountyRat profile page
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    Quote from pmabraham
    Good day:

    This legal immigrant provides a very clear explanation of the 2nd Amendment plus the need for high capacity magazines. He includes historical and legal citations as part of his approximate five minutes as part of the gun control hearings:

    Gun Control -- No matter what your opinion, you need to see this - YouTube

    Thank you.
    Quote from pmabraham
    Good day:
    Quote from pmabraham
    This legal immigrant provides a very clear explanation of the 2nd Amendment plus the need for high capacity magazines. He includes historical and legal citations as part of his approximate five minutes as part of the gun control hearings: Gun Control -- No matter what your opinion, you need to see this - YouTube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZo4hbGJjVI
    Thank you.
    Wow. I just finished watching this video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZo4hbGJjVI, and what a breath of fresh air. Unlike so many of the rants currently in circulation, this statement that is calm, thoughtful, free of accusations and stereotypes, and referenced to factual information. It is also emotional compelling without a hint of hysteria. Please take 5 minutes to view it.
    Last edit by Esme12 on Oct 7, '13 : Reason: Formatting
  13. Visit  TaylorMaidRn profile page
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    I am licensed and keep one in my car. Workplace violence is not unheard of in the hospital setting. Where I work, we have no security, and our rural county has only 2 sheriffs deputies and 1-2 police officers on duty during the night. These officers cover a radius that would take over an hour to cross. Response times aren't that quick. I doubt I will ever have to use it during my career, but its a comfort knowing that its there, should the need arise.


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