Complying with CA BON deficient courses - page 2

As the title states for the folks that have to take certain courses such as OB, MS or either Psyc, has anyone visited and spoken to any Nursing directors at the approved CA BON Nursing Schools listed... Read More

  1. Visit  NRSKarenRN profile page
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    I know of no way for nurses to meet the requirement of "classroom education with concurrent clinical practice" if not provided by their original nursing education program except to apply to a US based education program and retake deficient cources.

    When issue is nurse is "short" # hours in one or two areas, some programs may accept practicing RN into just those courses.
    They the glut of students, few programs are willing to provide this option, especially with clinical sites crowded in many California areas-- not enough patients for all the students in a few facilities.
    Last edit by NRSKarenRN on Jul 31, '12
  2. Visit  Ginger's Mom profile page
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    The issue is foreign educated nurses fail 70percent , that is unacceptable. US nurses are taught to read the nurse practice act of their state. Passing the NClEX the first time and understanding how the BON operates is basic nursing practice.To solve your problem become a lvn, and take a bridge program to become R N, problem solved.
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  3. Visit  steppybay profile page
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    See if anyone gets an answer from this website, she's offering the solution, as mentioned in the big RED box, but I'm not 100% convinced.

    http://www.lisasclinicalremedy.org/I..._Students.html
  4. Visit  steppybay profile page
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    Quote from Ginger's Mom
    The issue is foreign educated nurses fail 70percent , that is unacceptable. US nurses are taught to read the nurse practice act of their state. Passing the NClEX the first time and understanding how the BON operates is basic nursing practice.To solve your problem become a lvn, and take a bridge program to become R N, problem solved.
    Here's some information from our own nursing stats for our own boards. No, I didn't take the exam myself as I feel I'm not totally prepared. But that's also why I and many of my batchmates are so ANGRY at our own colleges, we have been given and taught "inferior classes", sorry to sad, but it's time to admit it!

    We know of so many of our other US friends, US cousins, US sisters, US brothers who graduated in the States and they all passed the NCLEX right out of their schools, most took the exam months after getting their ATT. Most only used Kaplan or Saunders reviews, if they even needed it. If you look at the CA BON NCLEX passing rates, you'll find it's very high from 80-90% or higher.

    Here's the sad information of our own colleges and school:

    This year, 78,513 nursing graduates took the board examinations. Fewer than half—37,513 examinees—passed, according to the Professional Regulatory Commission (PRC), which administered the tests.

    In 2009, a record 88,649 nursing graduates took the board examinations, but only 39,455 passed.
    Last edit by steppybay on Jun 5, '12 : Reason: spelling
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  5. Visit  RhanSantiago84 profile page
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    Hi Ginger Mom what's interesting is why didn't they full enforce the rules even during the Nursing shortage they could've avoided getting these fake diplomas, transcripts etc..and rules being clearer for international graduates my .02 cents of thoughts.
  6. Visit  BayAreaResident profile page
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    I have to admit during my time in the Philippines, the Nursing schools were PACKED with students! In my first year of college there were 2500 of us and that number steadily decreased until 500 of us graduated during my batch of '09. Other nursing schools had DOUBLE that number.

    The nursing "craze" was used by colleges as a money crop. They would accept everybody! And slowly start decreasing the numbers every year. We were always told that the nursing shortage was still occuring all over the world and that the program we enrolled in was accredited world wide. Being 18 during my freshman year, I didn't even think to look at the requirements of the CABON.
  7. Visit  steppybay profile page
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    Quote from BayAreaResident
    I have to admit during my time in the Philippines, the Nursing schools were PACKED with students! In my first year of college there were 2500 of us and that number steadily decreased until 500 of us graduated during my batch of '09. Other nursing schools had DOUBLE that number.

    The nursing "craze" was used by colleges as a money crop. They would accept everybody! And slowly start decreasing the numbers every year. We were always told that the nursing shortage was still occuring all over the world and that the program we enrolled in was accredited world wide. Being 18 during my freshman year, I didn't even think to look at the requirements of the CABON.
    BINGO! I couldn't have said it any better!

    I mentioned this before and I will mention it again....our PH nursing board was nothing than a pure GREEDY machine. It needed to keep up with the funding so that they could keep the schools going, knowing full well, there was no jobs to be had. Someone else mentioned they have known this for years at least since 2009, I think it was more than that.

    No wonder, we were so packed, looking at the PRC own stats, in just the two years alone, there was 167,162 nursing students that actually graduated!

    If you take the 78,513 PH students and I read somewhere else that almost 23% of PH grads on average wants to come to CA, that's almost 18,000 PH grads competing with only 11,000 CA new grads. There's absolutely NO way any job market is going to be able to absorb almost 30,000 nursing newbies (combo of PH and CA grads), NO way!

    I hated the way they would preach to us, like BayAreaResident says effectively, Don't worry, be happy, God will help us all in His own way.

    It was mentioned in another PH article posted here that at this current rate, the NEED for PH nurses will happen in the year 2021! I don't know about most of you but I have to survive and waiting 9-10 years is not being in the real world.

    I'm ANGRY that we have been so blind-sided by our own nursing board. I would have rather they told me, we will be closing down the schools years ago and do me a favor instead of getting my hopes up and saying the nursing shortage is world-wide from years ago and CA is going to need more nurses than ever before!
  8. Visit  BayAreaResident profile page
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    Well what's done is done. We have an "almost" Bachelor's degree in Califrnia lol. I'm sending my application for my NCLEX-PN tomorrow. I still haven't sent my additional requirements for my NCLEX-RN though. I will wait for a while before sending that.
  9. Visit  ianrefugio profile page
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    Hi everyone.. I too was in the same boat as you all here. I graduated from the Philippines and came back to the US.. Yes, i'm originally from the US but went to the Philippines to study cause it was way cheaper than any college here. Well since i got denied by the CA BON to sit in for the NCLEX, i was really bummed. So i did my research and took action. I applied with CGFNS to have my credentials evaluated. Paid for them to process my CES. And then i applied to another state... Hawaii! From the time i started my application with CGFNS and the Hawaii BON, it took approximately 2 months to receive my ATT. Yay! I am now reviewing with Kaplan for the NCLEX-RN which i plan to take in a few months.. I just want to let you all know that you have options. Do your research!
  10. Visit  steppybay profile page
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    Quote from ianrefugio
    Hi everyone.. I too was in the same boat as you all here. I graduated from the Philippines and came back to the US.. Yes, i'm originally from the US but went to the Philippines to study cause it was way cheaper than any college here. Well since i got denied by the CA BON to sit in for the NCLEX, i was really bummed. So i did my research and took action. I applied with CGFNS to have my credentials evaluated. Paid for them to process my CES. And then i applied to another state... Hawaii! From the time i started my application with CGFNS and the Hawaii BON, it took approximately 2 months to receive my ATT. Yay! I am now reviewing with Kaplan for the NCLEX-RN which i plan to take in a few months.. I just want to let you all know that you have options. Do your research!
    Very nice! Good luck in your testing! How is the job market there (Hawaii)?
  11. Visit  steppybay profile page
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    Guys, as you know, there are "some" possible schools but you have to realize again, you can't just walk up and expect to just sign for the course.

    You need to take that particular school's pre-testing in both English and Math, you must score very high in the TEAS exam, there may be other pre-testing you need to take and pass, as each school is different, then you're allowed to apply for the missing or needed courses. This process also could take months.

    The application period is once or twice a year, that's it. If you miss out on the dates, you wait another year.

    Many CA schools and colleges don't plan to offer any special classes to the international students as a whole, as the schools/colleges themselves don't even have enough in their budgets to instruct their regular nursing programs and have to cut back or not offer a class if there's no money or no instructor who can teach it, also due to no money to pay that person.

    If there are any schools or colleges offering to make up the deficient courses, you better make sure they are on the APPROVED CA BON list of schools or you're wasting your time and money. I don't care if they claim they are 108% approved by the CA BON, I need to see their name on the approved list.

    Btw, none of my friends nor I have been having any luck with getting into any classes from the Bay Area to San Diego fo over a year, but maybe someone here one day will be successful and if you do, please post up your story.
  12. Visit  ulna profile page
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    Quote from steppybay
    You need to take that particular school's pre-testing in both English and Math, you must score very high in the TEAS exam, there may be other pre-testing you need to take and pass, as each school is different, then you're allowed to apply for the missing or needed courses. This process also could take months.
    Is that for ALL students or just international students? What if you're already a US citizen and CA resident?

    Btw, none of my friends nor I have been having any luck with getting into any classes from the Bay Area to San Diego fo over a year, but maybe someone here one day will be successful and if you do, please post up your story.
    Dang. How many schools have you guys questioned? I imagine it must have been over 20... :/
  13. Visit  steppybay profile page
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    Quote from ulna
    Is that for ALL students or just international students? What if you're already a US citizen and CA resident?

    Dang. How many schools have you guys questioned? I imagine it must have been over 20... :/
    Everyone and anyone wanting to enroll into the nursing program or their college, it doesn't matter if you're a foreign or CA resident or whatever, it's a testing exam that covers a lot of subjects and a requirement to be considered.

    There are books and videos to help out. The thing is one MUST have high test score results to even apply as you're going up against many others. I read that if you're in the high 85%, you're safe, but doesn't mean you'll get accepted as there are other factors that "weed" out the competition: high GPA's, great letter of recommendations, anything that helps your application to see that you're a well rounded person, like volunteer work.

    TEAS Test

    You're allowed to take the test twice in a year, so make your first attempt a success!


    We called or contacted EVERY school and college that's listed in the CA BON approved list, it took a while for some reply back by e-mail.

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