Why In The Heck Should I Be A Loyal Nurse? - page 7
by TheCommuter 18,730 Views | 86 Comments Senior Moderator
As a nurse, is it really worth it to show loyalty to your place of employment? Perhaps there truly are benefits to being a loyal employee. Maybe not. Your thoughts on workplace loyalty are probably dependent upon the... Read More
- 2Nov 28, '12 by teiladayQuote from TheCommuterDon't be fooled. "bean counters" are very skilled at what they do, and becoming an actuary (passing all the associated exams) is something a relative few people on the planet can do.The bottom line isn't complex and I'll be direct:1. Will replacing senior, well trained, highly knowledgeable staff with people with little knowledge positively affect the *bottom line*.(yes)2. Will the lack of experience harm the patient or the *bottom line* the most?(the patient)3. Will the probability of harm to patients (in dollars and cents... to include expected litigation) affect the *bottom line* more than the money saved by the reduction in workforce and hourly pay?(No, not even close)There you have it in a nutshell. Corporate has taken everything into consideration and don't forget that the business of healthcare (like virtually any other business) is to make money.What often (not always) makes horrible sense at ground level makes perfect corporate sense... Unfortunately.This doesn't surprise me one bit. Most seasoned nurses have topped out on the wage grid and are earning top pay, whereas new grads often start at the lowest pay rate on the wage grid. The bean counters figure they're saving plenty of money by replacing 'expensive nurses' with cheaper labor, but they're not taking account the wealth of knowledge, experience, and the unspoken 'spidey sense' that highly seasoned nurses bring to the table.We need the highly experienced nurses to transfer their knowledge and skills to the next generation of nurses. Whatever we do, management would be foolish to continue kicking seasoned nurses to the curb just because they earn 'too much money.'
- 0Nov 29, '12 by Over-the-hill-NurseThe OP is right. There is no loyality to the employee anymore. I am one of the older generation nurses that was loyal to the hospital I worked in. I thought that this place of employment was loyal to me as well. Boy was I ever wrong. I started at this hospital as a CNA and after graduation I stayed at this hospital for 21 years. I and several other "seasoned" nurses were suddenly out of a job. Loyality used to count. Not anymore. We were thrown out like an old pair of shoes. The only loyality I will show is to myself.
- 0Nov 29, '12 by SENSUALBLISSINFLQuote from LADYVENGEANCE1Sheesh, I do not want any of you experienced nurses to drop dead to take your position. I just want a shot at a new opening...we new graduates deserve a chance to work too and here in South Florida, experience will always get the job before us new graduates.Is hard to be loyal when experience nurses are always seen as an expensive cost, and some new grads are all just waiting for you to drop dead to take your position. Nursing school saturating the system and medicaid medicare hcahps reducing hospital reimbursements.
- 0Nov 29, '12 by SA2009Lindarn, I completely agree regarding unions. In the last semester, I took History for BSN and do have a better understanding as to why Americans have such a strange relationship to unions. Employers, I don't care in what sector, are in the business for the bottom line. Period! At this point especially because the economy is contracting, the job market is tight which makes is an "employer market" meaning the abundance of people looking for works allows the employer to lower benefits (includes wages, hours, PTO, etc.) and to pick who they seem most appropriate for the benefit of the institution or business or company.
So, to come back to loyality to the employer, no, I don't think it would be wise at this time.
- 0Nov 29, '12 by BrandonLPNQuote from rentalnurseIt depends on the union, though. Where I work (a state facility) the union has thwarted the state's attempt to privatize the CNAs for years. Our CNAs who made it to the top of the pay scale make over twenty dollars an hour. They want to replace them with agency aides who get paid eight dollars an hour. How's *that* for loyalty? A union can be a great "loyalty substitute" for employers who have a deficiency in this field.Union doesn't really mean a thing nowdays. If ya write a grievance you get retaliated against and all they do is sit in meetings and don't help. Loyalty is nothing to a company, customer service and ratings are the only things that matter. If the patient or family isnt happy and they dont get what they want the nurse gets reported and hauled in the office for not providing 'good customer service'
- 1Nov 29, '12 by samadams8Commuter, you make many true points. I'm not sure what may be meant by some employers as loyal. I am faithful, reliable, committed to my patients and their families--I mean, does that count? The loyalty of any organization, for the most part anyway, is to their bottom line--sadly nurses are mere workers, numbers. I strive to be loyal to my God, myself, my spouse and family, my friends, and I'm faithful to the cause of caring and advocacy of those in need.
Honestly, I think, however, I have been most "institutionally" loyal to those institutions that showed repeatedly their commitment to their values and mission statements, as well as when they demonstrated fair and good treatment of each other and the patient/clients. If they showed that they are worthy of loyalty, I gave them loyalty and have gone well beyond due diligence while employed my them. I have also tried to be positive about former employers--even when they did not demonstrate that they were faithful to their stated values.
When, however, an employer demonstrated that they didn't really live their mission and values statements, and when employees and/or patients and families were not treated with compassion and fairness, well, I knew I would need to pick up work elsewhere and work toward moving away from the place--or else limiting time there.
Nowadays, often decency, much less true loyalty has become quite rare; therefore, I advise nurses to have more than one position--a backup job. You need to be able to mitigate your losses quickly should you ever have to endure the capricious antics of people within the new era of healthcare. This makes a statement in and of itself; but mostly it's about survival. When you watch nurses get screwed enough times, you learn quite quickly what you have to do.
- 0Nov 30, '12 by Daly City RN>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I stayed with one employer, a large trauma center in San Francisco.
It wasn't easy. It was a hard and stressful job, but a job I was and forever proud to have had.
After 27+ years, I have retired and am enjoying a well-earned pension.
I do not know how I survived all those years.
I am honored to have worked with so many fine, hard working nurses and doctors.
Yes, being loyal to your employer, the right employer, may reward you with a comfortable pension.
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- 0Dec 2, '12 by Trilldayz,RN BSNAs someone who has been burned by a previous employer (who I gave 2.5 years to as a nurse intern with a spotless record, only for them to not want to hire me as a new RN...while they hired OUTSIDE new grads over me..with higher gpas), I am the FIRST person to tell new grads to never trust their employers. I have made sure to always think of a plan B just in case.