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- Jul 20, '12 by tothepointeLVNyou say you have no idea why she would behave that way towards you but then you listed several reasons that might have motivated her. also you said this about her.
meanwhile, she was in a sexless relationship (that she constantly talked about) with a guy who wouldn't commit to her, she had her adn, and she received patient complaints as well as coaching for her attitude during the time i worked with her.
so i think it might not have been 100% her. we've all spent time in both the agressor and victim role at one time or another.
- Jul 20, '12 by tothepointeLVNQuote from onlybyhisgracernoh please mind. or pm me your commentnevermind*****
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- Jul 20, '12 by decembergrad2011Quote from tothepointelvnnot sure what you're implying here, but i was completely professional during my time with her. i focused on myself and my course requirements and my goals. she spoke about the things i listed over and over again, either to me or around me, which is why i knew about them. it's not like i was hanging out with the rest of the rns on the floor gossiping about her when she was not present. needless to say, she was not given a student the following semester.you say you have no idea why she would behave that way towards you but then you listed several reasons that might have motivated her. also you said this about her.
so i think it might not have been 100% her. we've all spent time in both the agressor and victim role at one time or another.[/font][/left]
either way, i graduated, passed nclex, and am employed so it doesn't really matter anymore. it was a mistake on my part to overshare my experience on the internet and i regret doing it.
- Jul 20, '12 by StephalumpQuote from nekozukiNot only is it a shining example of the very things the alleged misogynists are pointing out, but it's just another reason feminism has been polarized and abhorred by your average woman Quit looking for behaviors and proceeding to tell other women what we think and feel! If I've found women to be more catty than men, you are completely overstepping your boundaries to tell ME I hate women and myself. If I'm a stay at home mom, you're completely out of line telling me I'm nothing more than a brainwashed sheep and I don't WANT to be a stay at home mom.Theoretically, morally, ethically, I agree with you.
And yet, in my heart of hearts, I cannot deny that many times, ******* be crazy.
Call me a self-loathing misogynist all you want, but it'll just be the same kind of dramatic overreaction that perpetuates these stereotypes, while male posters twiddles their thumbs, stay under the radar and let the ladies go at it amongst themselves.
Have a met women who brazenly hate other women? Yes. My cousin's wife will straight up tell you she only hangs around men because women are b•itches. Some women won't say it as bluntly, but they're near constant negative commentary is clear enough.
ONE comment on a message board about someone's experience is not evidence of any sort overall attitude and it's presumptuous to think you can label people so quickly. Especially when taking a moral stand against labeling.
- Jul 20, '12 by metal_m0nkThis coming from someone who described a young nurse who went to her superior for assistance with another female nurse who was hassling her as a "crybaby".
People never cease to amaze me.
- Jul 20, '12 by Esme12unfortunately, lateral violence is a problem in many professions not just nursing.
a nurse rolls her eyes at a co-worker as she picks up the assignment sheet that was created by a younger charge nurse. an icu nurse pretends not to see her co-worker is drowning and ignores her request for help saying she is ‘too busy’. a newly hired rn who was previously a scrub tech finds she is now shunned by both groups. is this just life as a nurse or a nurse’s right of passage? or is it something more insidious?
these behaviors go by several names: lateral or horizontal violence, incivility, nurse-to-nurse bullying, sabotage - “nurses eating their young.” in general, bullying in the united states is a term used to describe uncivil behavior from someone who has power over you – vertical aggression. rude behaviors from peers are referred to as horizontal or lateral hostility and are defined as: “a consistent pattern of behavior designed to control, diminish or devalue a peer (or group) which creates a risk to health or safety” (farrell, 2005). some specific examples are:
- covert. unfair assignments, refusing to help someone, ignoring, making faces behind someone’s back, refusing to only work with certain people – or not work with others, whining, sabotage, exclusion, fabrication
we are represenatives of this profession need to be sure that we don't perpetuate this behavior by participating oursleves. we need to discusscuss this problem without becomming apart of the problem.
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- Jul 20, '12 by metal_m0nkmy take on this discussion...
[color=#111180]the first time i read a header like “why are nurses such backstabbers?” or a post that flatly stated “women are nasty, catty, backstabbers” i fully expected the poster to be jumped upon with both feet by every woman reading the post. when that didn’t happen, it surprised, then disappointed, then dismayed me. when so many female posters jumped in to agree with these misogynistic statements, i was shocked and saddened. i am no longer shocked by how many members of this board appear to hate, mistrust or dislike women, but i continue to deplore the pheonomenon. and that so many of these misogynists are women themselves -- that i find even more deplorable. hypocritical and deplorable.
when so many women jumped in to agree, it’s probably because they can relate – they’ve experienced cattiness and backstabbing first hand – either as the aggressor or the aggressee – and probably not because there is some conspiracy of character that evades only you and those who share your views to the letter.
also, the only thing that using a racial pejorative like “the ‘n’ word” and calling women catty share is that they are both blanket statements. the difference between them is that “the ‘n’ word” is a word that doesn’t really describe any specific behavior. in colloquial use, it is mostly akin to calling all women ["female dogs"] in that it is a derogatory term that is affixed to something that cannot be controlled by any individual or group of individuals (like race or gender). catty on the other hand, very specifically describes an observed behavior. behavior can indeed be controlled by individuals and groups of individuals. i’m sorry, but the comparison doesn’t stand up. talking about women calling other women back-stabbers is a very different conversation from one that discusses women calling other women ["female dogs"] and that distinction should have been made here…
though, i’m fairly certain the intent behind drawing such a comparison was not to encourage a reasonable discussion, but to bait responders into emotionally charged and possibly irrational responses. this, for me, drains the original post of all integrity.
i do understand that pointing the finger around to those who call you out is a very natural defense mechanism. i’m just not falling for it.
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- Quote from tothepointeLVNsent you a pm.Oh PLEASE mind. Or PM me your comment TTP <--- Mean Girl