Last names on ID badges and retaliation by patients - page 4

I am a nursing student who would like input on her school's policy on ID badges. We are currently required to display our full first and last name on our name tags at our clinical sites. I... Read More

  1. by   fergus51
    Quote from nialloh
    If you wonder what you can do with a last name, try this out.
    http://www.zabasearch.com/
    OK, I'm not in this database apparently and I don't have an unlisted number. That's hilarious! :chuckle
  2. by   elthia
    Quote from nialloh
    If you wonder what you can do with a last name, try this out.
    http://www.zabasearch.com/

    Well that's scary...
    Input my name and came up with
    my DOB
    my current address
    my previous address
    my high school (different state than I live in)
    my college including date of graduation
    my previous phone number
    hit another button and for a fee it said it would provide more info up to and including credit history, previous addresses, and FAMILY members.

    I'm not happy.
  3. by   mattsmom81
    Good luck in getting this changed. Last names are not necessary IMO...and until we had significant harassment and stalking issues on the job, my employers resisted protecting us. Finally we were allowed to tape over our last names after several mentally ill patients or disgruntled former patients/familes found out our addresses and phone numbers and terrorized our families.

    Personally, I have had two instances. One who fixated on me and left lewd messages on my home answering maching, threatening to kill my husband. My small son was traumatized overhearing one of these.

    The other was an angry spouse of a patient who was a staff bullier, and when I stood up to him and called the police, he retaliated by stalking me for months.
  4. by   Tweety
    Quote from elthia

    Well that's scary...
    Input my name and came up with
    my DOB
    my current address
    my previous address
    my high school (different state than I live in)
    my college including date of graduation
    my previous phone number
    hit another button and for a fee it said it would provide more info up to and including credit history, previous addresses, and FAMILY members.

    I'm not happy.

    I think zaba is the website that will even give a satellite picture of your home. One of our state representatives did it on a news show and was appalled. "We'll have to look into this, it isn't right".
  5. by   TweetiePieRN
    If you think www.zabasearch.com is bad check out www.ancestry.com.
    I have a membership to this for geneology reasons. They used to only list the deceased. Guess what? Now they list living people. If you type in any name you come up with the entire first middle last names, DOB, MOTHERS MAIDEN NAME!!!!, and county of birth. So basically, now anyone can get my birth cert and use it get other nasty things done!!! It also lists my address and phone number (unlisted!!). If you look up someone deceased, they now list their SS#!! Talk about moving fraud right along!!
  6. by   sbic56
    Quote from James Huffman
    I think the issue of professionalism certainly comes into play here. If nurses want the professional respect and standing that physicians have, going by first name is not the way to do it.

    People in professional or business settings are normally known as Mr. or Ms. Jones, or whatever. We don't identify adults by their first name. We call children by their first name, and sometimes adults we consider "beneath" us. But someone we respect is known by their last name. If we wish to be identified by our first name, because of some over-blown fear of harassment, we should not be surprised that we are not treated as professional colleagues.

    Jim Huffman, RN
    I have to disagree. I am a professional nurse, not a doctor with a practice whose pateints need to know the full name of the doctor in order to receive care. After all, you can't enter "John D." as your physician contact. The patient does not need to know my identity past the end of that shift. If my patient needs me, they can find me by asking for Sue (add the B if need be.) Knowing my last name has nothing to do with the care they receive from me. First name, last initial and photo, so I can be identified as an employee of the hospital, is all that is necessary for the pateint and it does help to keep the nurse safer from nusance contacts or stalkers.
  7. by   TweetiePieRN
    Quote from sbic56
    I have to disagree. I am a professional nurse, not a doctor with a practice whose pateints need to know the full name of the doctor in order to receive care. After all, you can't enter "John D." as your physician contact. The patient does not need to know my identity past the end of that shift. If my patient needs me, they can find me by asking for Sue (add the B if need be.) Knowing my last name has nothing to do with the care they receive from me. First name, last initial and photo, so I can be identified as an employee of the hospital, is all that is necessary for the pateint and it does help to keep the nurse safer from nusance contacts or stalkers.
    Totally agree with you sbic56!! You couldn't have said it better. Mr. Huffman has a pretty common name, but I don't have a common first or last name. If someone looked me up...it would be ME and not another someone with the same name.
  8. by   sbic56
    Quote from Tweety
    I think zaba is the website that will even give a satellite picture of your home. One of our state representatives did it on a news show and was appalled. "We'll have to look into this, it isn't right".
    There are several ways to find out just about anything you want about anyone online. Much about you has always been public info, but harder to find. The internet has opened all that up. Another reason to hold on to a little bit of privacy where you can.

    Sue B. RN
  9. by   pricklypear
    Quote from sbic56
    I have to disagree. I am a professional nurse, not a doctor with a practice whose pateints need to know the full name of the doctor in order to receive care. After all, you can't enter "John D." as your physician contact. The patient does not need to know my identity past the end of that shift. If my patient needs me, they can find me by asking for Sue (add the B if need be.) Knowing my last name has nothing to do with the care they receive from me. First name, last initial and photo, so I can be identified as an employee of the hospital, is all that is necessary for the pateint and it does help to keep the nurse safer from nusance contacts or stalkers.
    Took the words right out of my mouth. It has nothing to do with professionalism. My behavior and my clinical skills (among other things) define my professionalism. I'm sorry, but I think calling someone "Nurse Brown" harkens back to the beginnings of time. I'm just fine with my first name only. That's all they need to know in the setting in which I work.
  10. by   fergus51
    Again can someone please tell me: are your patients not allowed to review their charts? The ones with your full names in them?

    The spelling of my last name is fairly uncommon, but I wasn't in that search engine. Plus, they actually spelled both my first and last name incorrectly on my name tag despite the fact that I always tell people how to spell it!!
    Last edit by fergus51 on Sep 13, '05
  11. by   sbic56
    Quote from TweetiePieRN
    Totally agree with you sbic56!! You couldn't have said it better. Mr. Huffman has a pretty common name, but I don't have a common first or last name. If someone looked me up...it would be ME and not another someone with the same name.
    Good point.

    Another thought... if the patient does call the doc for a reason other than a professional one, they are most likely going to be calling their office, as that is what is listed publicly. If they know the nurses last name and want to harrass them, then they will probably be able to contact them at home. I really don't want to be unlisted, just because I am an RN.
  12. by   sbic56
    Quote from pricklypear
    Took the words right out of my mouth. It has nothing to do with professionalism. My behavior and my clinical skills (among other things) define my professionalism. I'm sorry, but I think calling someone "Nurse Brown" harkens back to the beginnings of time. I'm just fine with my first name only. That's all they need to know in the setting in which I work.
    Images of "Nurse Ratched" running through my head. :chuckle

    Also, I don't think every visitor in the place needs to know my identity, either. The hospital is a very public place. I wouldn't walk around with my full name displayed upon me in the grocery store, either.
  13. by   seanymph
    I have refused for years to have mine on the name tag for the simple reason that we live in a small city where our last name is not a common one and my brother has worked as a narcotics officer and is now a patrol officer, my niece and nephew work for the county jail and I have another brother who works for the State at a local prison as a corrections officer. Too many chances for my name to be connected and retaliation. If a patient has a complaint (issue or compliment) they can always go through proper channels to obtain my last name as I do sign there chart.

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