Instant Gratification - page 3

Indulge me for a moment. Back in the day, nothing was instant but coffee. There was a waiting game for almost every aspect of life. It set people up to have a number of anticipatory feelings. ... Read More

  1. Visit  That Guy profile page
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    Quote from GrnTea


    I hatehatehate the bazillions of posts I see here with the wailing about having to wait a whole extra DAY for NCLEX results, for people not being able to get the nursing program to pass someone with a below-the-line GPA because it's their passsssssioooonnnn to be nurses and all their friends says what awwwweeessssoommmmme nurses they will be, and how when they get those new grad jobs how mean everyone is to them because they criticize their performance. For folks who seem to spend a lot of time looking in the mirror they don't seem to have a clue about what they're all about.

    I read an interesting paper about mid-20s folks currently flooding psychology offices with vague disquiet and feelings of incompetence, like they don't know why they don't feel better about themselves. The author, a psychologist, concluded that they had always been "validated" and praised for meeting normal requirements, always been sheltered from failure, always had obstructions removed from their paths, and now they found that they had no experience in overcoming adversity or learning from failure. Thus they felt adrift, at sea, not really sure what to do, and afraid to try. Is this what we have to look forward to caring for us when we are old(er)?
    Just another shinning example of why I agree with a lot of what you say. This right here gets so old. I wouldnt even go so far as to say it is the instant gratification age as it is the entitled age. Drives me insane.
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  3. Visit  OCNRN63 profile page
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    I don't really look at these articles as any sort of scholarly piece of writing. I think of them more as op-ed or blog posts. A topic like this would require research. That's why I take them with a grain of salt.
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  4. Visit  jadelpn profile page
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    Quote from anabellatx1
    You said "Newer nurses have always had instant gratification. The thought of waiting is not in their mindset, therefore, the level of frustration goes up when their nursing practice doesn't reflect this concept." How dare you generalized a group like that?! You obviously don't know how to refer to people in general. I'm an immigrant in the US, worked for 10 years to save money to start nursing school, paid my own way through nursing school, and thanks to God's mercy I'm a RN now. I know what waiting is, so for you to just write this stuff is very disrespectful to say the least. You need to use words like "most nurses" or "some nurses". I'm trying to understand why you posted this kind of comment... Next time be more careful.
    Then there's a cultural difference in how some may have been raised. Case in point--there are a number (number) not ALL (which is why I usually refer to "some or most" nurses--nothing is ever "all"--and by newer nurses I am specific to generation without sounding ignorant to age) nurses who are way in debt (or their parents are) from student loans for nursing school. Instant gratification with little thought of consequences. Too tied up with "extracurriculars" to get a job (because you NEED them to get into college, so say they) so no sense of saving and acquiring things that one can afford with no foresight.

    I worked my butt off since the age of 14--as most in my generation did. It was expected that my parents would not (and should not) have to pay my way (again, common in my generation). The choices I made reflect the fact that my priorities are different than some other person's may be. On the contrary, a multitude of my kid's friends are being financed by a "fund" for college, and can happily hang at Mom and Dads should they not find a job right away after college. And/or they work their butts off as nurses, only to pay loans. The idea of working to save and then to pay their way through school can be based on generational concepts. And you have noted sometimes culture. Would you ever thing of asking your parents to finance you? Perhaps not, however, this is a huge thing with the younger generation. Does it make them any less a nurse? Of course not. However, different mindsets need to meld somehow. You have got to look at where someone's coming from in order to create an effective team.

    And the instant gratification is the information highway at its best. The concept of full picture of a patient's condition is made in part by instant information. "Observation" can make some younger nurses nervous. That is not downing this idea, but there's a frenzy that is not always present with more seasoned nurses. Case in point--the multiple, multiple threads on here about having to wait for the results of anything. The multiple, multiple threads on "older nurses being mean" when in fact older nurses can just be seasoned to use observation as a viable nursing tool.

    My articles are meant for lively debate, not to be disrespectful to anyone. My appologies to any offense.
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  5. Visit  jadelpn profile page
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    Quote from wish_me_luck
    jadelpn, now you are in the line of fire. Welcome to the "Rock the Boat" club.
    Hey, if I didn't rock the boat, I wouldn't be able to try out my sea legs!
    FMF Corpsman, GrnTea, VivaLasViejas, and 1 other like this.
  6. Visit  jadelpn profile page
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    Quote from OCNRN63
    I don't really look at these articles as any sort of scholarly piece of writing. I think of them more as op-ed or blog posts. A topic like this would require research. That's why I take them with a grain of salt.
    100% OP-Ed on my end. Anything else and I would certainly quote my source.....
  7. Visit  wish_me_luck profile page
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    Quote from jadelpn
    Hey, if I didn't rock the boat, I wouldn't be able to try out my sea legs!
    I had a good laugh at this. Don't forget your life vest (you know you'll need it; sometimes it can get pretty rough on AN).
  8. Visit  Aprile74 profile page
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    I do not think this is an attempt to be critical of any one generation at all. Of course, not everyone fits into their generational stereotype and therefore this does not apply to every person. However, there are some very good points here. My interpretation here is that if we learn to understand each generation - how they were raised, how they think and interpret behavior etc... - it will help a multigenerational team work together cohesively. Each generation may be quite different, bringing unique attributes to a team that encourage a healthy work environment. The examples of how each of these generations were raised provides insight into how they were taught to interact with others, thus, how they may interpret something different. Understanding the generational background of how and/or why certain behaviors exist could provide insight into why someone does something a certain way. This does not make it right or wrong, it simply explains the rationale to someone who was not taught to think that way. Seasoned nurses don't have all the answers, for example with new technology that comes around. However, while a young new nurse may be extremely proficient in technology, he or she does not have the years of nursing experience to apply in the critical thinking process. Working together they can learn from each other and provide quality nursing care. If people would be open to others opinions and thought processes, it can be a win-win for everyone. Different is not right or wrong, it is just different. We should not be afraid of that.
  9. Visit  jadelpn profile page
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    Quote from Aprile74
    I do not think this is an attempt to be critical of any one generation at all. Of course, not everyone fits into their generational stereotype and therefore this does not apply to every person. However, there are some very good points here. My interpretation here is that if we learn to understand each generation - how they were raised, how they think and interpret behavior etc... - it will help a multigenerational team work together cohesively. Each generation may be quite different, bringing unique attributes to a team that encourage a healthy work environment. The examples of how each of these generations were raised provides insight into how they were taught to interact with others, thus, how they may interpret something different. Understanding the generational background of how and/or why certain behaviors exist could provide insight into why someone does something a certain way. This does not make it right or wrong, it simply explains the rationale to someone who was not taught to think that way. Seasoned nurses don't have all the answers, for example with new technology that comes around. However, while a young new nurse may be extremely proficient in technology, he or she does not have the years of nursing experience to apply in the critical thinking process. Working together they can learn from each other and provide quality nursing care. If people would be open to others opinions and thought processes, it can be a win-win for everyone. Different is not right or wrong, it is just different. We should not be afraid of that.
    Very well put! And could not have explained it better myself!

    In all seriousness, this sums up exactly where I intended this article to perceive. Thank you!
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  10. Visit  mmc51264 profile page
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    As an older new grad (>45) I have an interesting perspective. I see nurses that are my age that have been nurses for 30 years. Most are wonderful. Some are tired. They need to keep working but they really should stop. I also young nurses who have worked hard, they are caring, confident without being arrogant, and great critical thinkers. Again, there are those that feel entitled.

    I have said this before, I feel uncomfortable when people generalize. There are good and bad in each generation and each person who is in a different stage of life.
  11. Visit  BrandonLPN profile page
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    Putting aside the whole new nurse vs old nurse spiel, I think the expectation of instant gratification is a very real phenomenon among younger generations (including myself here). How can it not be?

    It's an inevitable result of the technology and economy around us. I was born in 1980 and the changes I've seen since childhood are astounding.

    Just look at television. When I was a kid, Saturday morning was "cartoon day" because it was the one day that played all the cartoons for the kids who got up early to watch scooby doo and spiderman. That was it for the week. Nowadays, the concept of "Saturday morning cartoons" is meaningless cause a kid can turn on the tv at 2am on a Tuesday and find 5 different 24/7 cartoon channels. Instant gratification. Even something like this has got to have some sort of subliminal effect on kids these days. Instant music and movie download instead of going to the store. Knowing, instantly, what every friend thinks about every mundane minutiae of everyday life via tweets and Facebook. All this has a cumulative effect.

    And even some aspects of this technology that should be good, so often fall short. Here we all are, with literally the sum total of human knowledge and culture a few clicks away, and people are more ignorant of the world around them than they were 50 years ago. We have this amazing tool in the Internet, and it's used mainly to find out what stupid celebrity did what stupid thing.

    Of course all this has an impact on society and on new generations being born into this new reality. How could it not?
  12. Visit  Hygiene Queen profile page
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    Quote from GrnTea

    I hatehatehate the bazillions of posts I see here with the wailing about having to wait a whole extra DAY for NCLEX results, for people not being able to get the nursing program to pass someone with a below-the-line GPA because it's their passsssssioooonnnn to be nurses and all their friends says what awwwweeessssoommmmme nurses they will be, and how when they get those new grad jobs how mean everyone is to them because they criticize their performance.
    Now now, Grn Tea!
    You are coming dangerously close to our old "Mockery of Nursing" thread here.
    In fact, your comments compelled me to go back and reread it...
    Still hilarious!
    Last edit by Hygiene Queen on Jul 14, '13 : Reason: just noticed I left a word out... and it bothered me
    GrnTea, SoldierNurse22, Nurse_Diane, and 3 others like this.
  13. Visit  kaydensmom01 profile page
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    Quote from BrandonLPN
    Putting aside the whole new nurse vs old nurse spiel, I think the expectation of instant gratification is a very real phenomenon among younger generations (including myself here). How can it not be?

    It's an inevitable result of the technology and economy around us. I was born in 1980 and the changes I've seen since childhood are astounding.

    Just look at television. When I was a kid, Saturday morning was "cartoon day" because it was the one day that played all the cartoons for the kids who got up early to watch scooby doo and spiderman. That was it for the week. Nowadays, the concept of "Saturday morning cartoons" is meaningless cause a kid can turn on the tv at 2am on a Tuesday and find 5 different 24/7 cartoon channels. Instant gratification. Even something like this has got to have some sort of subliminal effect on kids these days. Instant music and movie download instead of going to the store. Knowing, instantly, what every friend thinks about every mundane minutiae of everyday life via tweets and Facebook. All this has a cumulative effect.

    And even some aspects of this technology that should be good, so often fall short. Here we all are, with literally the sum total of human knowledge and culture a few clicks away, and people are more ignorant of the world around them than they were 50 years ago. We have this amazing tool in the Internet, and it's used mainly to find out what stupid celebrity did what stupid thing.

    Of course all this has an impact on society and on new generations being born into this new reality. How could it not?
    You said exactly what I was thinking while reading this and the replies. How can we expect all generations to stay exactly the same when EVERYTHING is so very different than it was 40 years ago?

    Now, due to technology, instant gratification is a normal everyday occurrence. What do we do, stop technology? No stopping technology is not the answer, but limiting it is. We need to limit our children's television time, internet time, limit fast food, and then let them know what it is like to wait. After all our parents and the older generations are the ones that created this "instant gratification generation" (yes I am stereotyping somewhat like what I feel has been done to us 20 somethings). We all influence what the future generations develop into whether we like to admit it or not.

    Even with limiting technology we are still not going to create clone generations because this world is so very different than it ever was before. This is good thing to me because I don't want to be exactly like the older generations, because they are certainly not perfect. I know the intention was not to make it seem like they are perfect but this thread still does give that interpretation due to certain posts (yes these posts are mainly from the older generation, imagine that).
    DizzyLizzyNurse likes this.
  14. Visit  Esme12 profile page
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    All I'm saying is that I had to wait 4 months for my board results and we didn't have to talk on the phone 24/7. We left messages and WAITED for a return call. I make my kids WAIT for things to they can learn patience.
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