Anti-intellectual & hyper-sensitive. WHY? - pg.2 | allnurses

Anti-intellectual & hyper-sensitive. WHY? - page 2

I got in trouble at my job yesterday. I was training in a new case manager. After some time observing me make calls and document, she tried it on her own. She's smart, a great nurse and did a good... Read More

  1. Visit  AnonRNC profile page
    I think it started when they stopped keeping score at kids' soccer games and gave ALL the kids a trophy!
  2. Visit  NurseOnAMotorcycle profile page
    My mother is FOB Korean working in long term healthcare. She taught us since birth that life is what you earn, not what you think someone owes you. No one cares if you feel like you could be a nice nurse when they are hiring, they want to know if you are good at your job. No one cares if you are really sick when you call in, they want your shift covered. Etc. Mom always says you get what you earn.

    If this person were more empowered, she'd take that statement and fix her writing in order to keep her job, not whine about how mean you are.

    This person sounds more entitled rather than empowered.
    Orange Tree, OCNRN63, anotherone, and 1 other like this.
  3. Visit  rumwynnieRN profile page
    I'll admit I'm a bit sensitive, but I've figured out you don't help yourself being hypersensitive to everything. I'm sorry she called you a *****, and god forbid you go out of your way to tell her to write like a professional because it's not like we're professionals​. I couldn't believe the writing of some of my classmates. I completely loathe text-speech, and it irks me to no end when people say, "O-M-G! That was just O-M-G!"

    And you're (classmate) older than me? -_-; Thank you Ms. Insane-English-AP-High-School-Teacher for emphasizing decent writing.
    Last edit by Esme12 on Feb 27, '13 : Reason: TOS
  4. Visit  roser13 profile page
    OP, I'd love to hear more about the eventual success of your orientee on your unit. Curious to see if she works out competency-wise AND interpersonal skills-wise.
  5. Visit  MBARNBSN profile page
    OP, I work in Case Management too. My boss fired someone a few months ago for poorly written notes. The nurse also used the "English is my second language" excuse and is a nurse who has lived and worked in this country for decades, as well. However, the nurse received several warnings and was finally let go due to complaints by outside agencies and other health care workers within our company.

    Healthcare is a place of business and the nurse CM you were orienting will create notes that count toward effective patient care and the hospital getting paid! Does your boss have the ability to be fair but firm? Or will your boss waste everyone's time and allow this nurse to get through orientation?
  6. Visit  Zuag profile page
    Healthstar---Based on your comment, I would disagree that you are a terrible writer. I'd say you succeeded in writing also. : )
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  7. Visit  litchick91 profile page
    "If it wasn't documented, it didn't happen."
  8. Visit  SoldierNurse22 profile page
    I agree with everything above, especially the point about you having a distinct advantage in this situation. If her behavior / job performance doesn't change, I'd do exactly as psu_213 suggested and provide your boss with examples of her "work". That should make a point.
  9. Visit  PMFB-RN profile page
    Quote from mclennan
    I see it here on AN (see: LPN/ADNs bashing people with more education, etc. etc.)
    *** I was with you until I read this. What suprises me is that I am a frequient AN reader and poster. Pretty much every day I am on AN now that I get it on my phone. I read dozens of posts here every day and I never see what you describe above. I will see ADNs returning fire when they have been attacked for being uneducated or lacking proper preperation for "professional" nursing. Funny how two different people will see things so differently. I was convinced that you were right in the OP and that you were dealing with an oversenstive nurse. Now I am not so sure that your side of the story is the accurate one.
  10. Visit  netglow profile page
    Well, so what.

    mclennan, this nurse has over a decade of experience. She'll practice as she wishes, right? So, all you do is let her know fully what the job requires and point out to her the musts. Offer to help her with the things she requests help with. She's been around for long enough and so have you to BOTH know you each get to make your own decisions. You do your job. She'll do hers. If what she does ends up causing big problems, those problems would be hers and hers alone.

    She's not a new nurse, after all. She knows how things work. She can decide how she will practice. It just might not be compatible with her job.
    bigsick_littlesick likes this.
  11. Visit  Pepper The Cat profile page
    I feel your pain.
    I know of an older nurse who charts 'IN CAPITOLS ALL THE TIME" because using the shift key is too hard. And she charts "WAY MORE INFORMATION THAN SHE NEEDS TOO" - resulting in a whole screen of information that no one reads. But when you try to correct her, she gets very defensive. Seriously - you look at her notes and it is a whole screen filled with words all typed in capitol letters with no paragraphs or breaks of any type.
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  12. Visit  mariebailey profile page
    I hold the perspective that, regardless of the quality of the orientation/training one receives, it is ultimately the individual nurse's responsibility to know how to perform his or her own job duties. It sounds like you are training her well, but, if she is not receptive to learning, she needs to be held accountable. I hope your manager holds that perspective too. I had managers that catered to whomever ran to them wining first. I hope that is not the case for you. If it is, I think it may serve you well to have a heart-to-heart with your manager & document frequently on any unprofessional behavior you see from the nurse. Most people eventually dig their own graves. Case managers should be so skilled in documentation! Her attitude is stunting her growth both professionally & personally; it's pitiful, really.
    leslie :-D likes this.
  13. Visit  anotherone profile page
    op. you may need to just let her do everything wrong then let the drs and management confront her and be blamed for never telling her. i cant not stand working with cry babies like this and it is a major reason why i HATE orienting peopke. it is to the point where very few nurses on my unit want to do it and we pretty much are forced to. if you tell anyone (even in a super nice way that she did something incorrectly or not a way a certain dr likes it , she will go crying to managment). whahwhahwha that nurse is a bullly! unless it will directly harm a pt, sometimes these people have enough rope to figuratively hang themselves . if someone is aplroachful i will say oh fyi that dr likes it this way ir you didnt chart this correctly, if they are defensive and confrontational about it, i ignore it .