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I am so tired of certain students who break the rules ALL the time and always seem to get away with it!!!

We are at a rehab hospital now for our 4th clinical site and the rules are we are not aloud to leave the premises for ANY reason. And there is no smoking ANYWHERE on the grounds. well needless to say the students who always seem to break the rules did so again and left the facility and drove off - came back and then LIED to where they have been. After one of the students even said they had left and that the instructor knew they left (lie).

It is so frustrating knowing the same ones break the rules over and over and nothing is done. why have the rules in the first place?

of course one of these students is the same person who took the test bank questions and printed them up and handed them out to students - he cheated, stole, and lied and NOTHING, again NOTHING was done.

Im so tired of it - I feel nursing is a TRUSTING profession and these liars and cheats are just being ignored.:angryfire

the rules of this facility is NO smoking anywhere on their grounds which is all together 30 acres. if ANYBODY is caught smoking the entire class will be asked to leave the clinical site. so its just going to take one of these people to mess it up for the rest of us.

i do worry about me - i could care less if all but 4 students fail. my thing is WHY have rules - if rules are NOT enforced for everyone. they seem to ONLY put the rules into affect when its for certain students which is wrong.

im 41 years old i think i am well aware of what happens in the real world. thats the problem these days everybody just turns their heads and are not worried about other people.

I guess the stress is getting to me. Just wish some people would just grow up.

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the rules of this facility is NO smoking anywhere on their grounds which is all together 30 acres. if ANYBODY is caught smoking the entire class will be asked to leave the clinical site. so its just going to take one of these people to mess it up for the rest of us.

i do worry about me - i could care less if all but 4 students fail. my thing is WHY have rules - if rules are NOT enforced for everyone. they seem to ONLY put the rules into affect when its for certain students which is wrong.

im 41 years old i think i am well aware of what happens in the real world. thats the problem these days everybody just turns their heads and are not worried about other people.

I guess the stress is getting to me. Just wish some people would just grow up.

It can be frustrating, but you just have to push through and focus on your own learning and advancement. At least it sounds like the faculty may not be hard nposed and you may have a bit of leeway if you ever need a rule bent. (trying to find the bright side for ya).

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Specializes in Family Nurse Practitioner.

Its hard but try to ignore it and focus on your studies. My LPN class had several that did whatever they wanted and the professors acted like they were afraid of them. Maybe this is just my isolated experience but in my RN class the students are far more motivated and everyone makes an effort to follow the rules. Hang in there.

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Specializes in LTC,Hospice/palliative care,acute care.
When you are at school, there are rules..When you are work, rules like these will not exist..

Really? I've never had a job that didn't have rules.When to start,when to take a break-when to leave.What to wear etc...A student with a propensity to ignore "rules" is likely to be a future crappy employee..And probably a sloppy nurse with lots of bad habits-including disregarding policies and procedures....A student like this makes the entire class look bad.Peer pressure may work to bring them in line...

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Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac.

We have a no smoking policy as well. It is massively disobeyed by the smokers. The VP of nursing bumped into someone smoking and merely said "you know you can't do that" and moved on.

If the did something about everyone who smoked against the rules in nooks and cranies outside there would be a lot of people in trouble.

Agree with the above. Don't sweat the small stuff and this is of no consequence to you.

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Specializes in Community Health, Med-Surg, Home Health.

You will see even more of this when you become a nurse. As TheCommuter stated, nursing is not a place where they bond together. Many times, most simply look out for their own interests.

I understand your frustrations, however, look at it this way; if the instructors are not singling YOU out by giving you a hard time, just look the other way and move on. I do not keep in touch with any of my classmates. I disliked the majority of them; while the other ones just didn't reach my attention to desire getting to know them. I felt that when school was over, it was time to move on...period. And, unfortunately, many of those same students STILL passed NCLEX. NCLEX-PN does not have the ability to screen the characters they are testing; if they can answer or regurgitate the crap that the boards want to hear, then, they can be nurses. Sad, but true. Hate to say it, but there is NOTHING honest about the nursing profession.

Good luck with your studies, and be proud that you have integrity.

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I see how it is hard to ignore, i had the same problem. A lot of girls i went to school with broke rules and a few hospitals that the school had a contracts with for years to do clinical with dropped them. We had to push our graduation back and maked up a few weeks of clinicals b/c we lost sites and our school did nothing. You just have to keep positive and try your best to not let others actions bring you down as well.

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I can totally feel the frustration.........I too have come across cheaters who seem to get away with everything....I just don't think it's fair that if someone studies their butts off and gets a decent grade....and you have the cheaters who get 98-100%....It's just not fair...It's pretty hard to ignore something when it's staring you right in the face...it's not just the facility rules, but school rules as well....The director warned us, if any one of us misbehaves, then it could cost the whole school a clinical site and that would be a shame for the people who follow rules to have to suffer for someones own selfish needs....

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Well ... there's always at least one of those wherever you go ... so get used to it. In all seriousness, I agree on the part of you worrying about yourself, what you do, your work, and your patients. I bet someone at your facility already noticed that, and they are not going to let that go ... but is time that you do :) Take a deep breath and let - it - go ... lol

Best of luck

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When you are at school, there are rules..When you are work, rules like these will not exist..

That is not true. More and more work facilities are becoming smoke free and not allowing smoking within a certain footage of the grounds of the facility. I once worked for a facility that would not allow you to leave on your lunch break in the rare occurance that you were in a car accident you would not be back to cover your shift. There will always be some sort rules wherever you work- and there will always be someone who feels they don't apply to them.

That being said- those people- while they may pass and make it on to the workplace and continue their immature behavior- are not always the people who get promoted first or receive the better raises. People DO notice what is going on, and while they may not choose to correct it....it all comes out in the wash. KWIM?

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Specializes in CST in general surgery, LDRs, & podiatry.

:twocents: in 50-some years of living, 35 of which have been spent in the workforce, not all of it medical, i have discovered three universal truths.

#1 - i have worked in many, many places - the only thing that changes are the names and the faces. (yes, that's mine - i made it up myself, and it's truly universal no matter what kind of work you do.)

#2 - "instant karma's gonna get you" - whether you are "good" or "bad" - whatever karma you have coming will get to you at some point in time. usually when you least expect it. that applies to everyone. it's my main comfort in the face of those who persist in behaving as though the rules never apply to them, and nobody seems to care enough to do anything about it. but it's gonna happen no matter what - i may not be around when it does - but it will. there's actually nothing i can do to cause it - or stop it - but it'll be there nonetheless. such is the nature of karma.

#3 - success is the best revenge. speaks for itself, doesn't it? people who consistently cheat on tests never have the wherewithal to come through in a pinch - there's no "cheat sheet" handy or someone to whisper the answers to them in an emergency. eventually, it all catches up with them, sort of like the instant karma thing mentioned above. so, your success as a nurse, or whatever you choose to do will play out in the long run over those who try and cheat their way through. there's an old saying about cheaters - cheaters never win, and winners never cheat.

so - do the very best you can to become the best nurse you can be, don't spend too much time or energy worrying about those who consistently break the rules and seem to get by with it - they'll get theirs when they least expect it. it's never failed yet!

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