Why do so many people insist that LPN'S AREN'T REAL NURSES!!??

Fiona59 · Apr 7, 2012

Click on the jobs in your link, despite the search terms entered they ALL turn up jobs in the US, even the ones that say "England" or have "English" sounding location names.
Senior Living- England - England ---Hampton Cove, Alabama
Care & Rehabilitation Center-Winchester ---Winchester, New Hampshire
Senior Communities-Somerset ---Somerset, New Jersey
Communities-Enfield, Greater London--- Enfield Nova Scotia Canada
I'll stop there and let you look for yourself.
It's great your LPN was a 2 year program but the reality is there are plenty of schools out there who get folks through the NCLEX-PN in under a year, it's one of many reasons that with few exceptions, outside the US and Canada the LPN isn't recognized. It's not an opinion or condemnation of LPNs or their education, it's a fact.

I'm glad that you backed up my findings on the jobs.

BUT your tone is not very supportive of LPNs. You failed to note that Enrolled Nurses are the Australian equivalent of LPNs.

Users really do expect support and guidance from a GUIDE, not your take on the global role of LPNs.

Bear in mind that many of the governing colleges is Canada evaluated some BScNs obtained in the Phillipines to be the equivalent of the education obtained by Canadian LPNs and the fact that Canada no longer has ADNs, hospital training programmes, and AAS (whatever that is) Nurses.

My education was the old two year diploma RN programme and I graduated as an LPN.

Your beating an old horse.

realnursealso/LPN, LPN · Apr 7, 2012

I wish they had a picture of a horse and a stick. This picture will do too >>>>>>>>>>>>> :jester:

BostonTerrierLover, BSN, RN · Apr 8, 2012

I would just about bet that half of the ones coming in and stirring everyone up, and trying to make someone feel less proud of their achievements, has probably yet to finish their HS Diploma. That's just my observation. It's worth nothing. Like the people who would want to stir up someone's feelings over their accomplishments. "A Nurse is a Nurse is a Nurse!"

I say this because none of my friends, associates, collegues, or educators from the ADN Program- all the way up to the MSN program have absolutely NEVER said in person, that an LPN was not a "real" nurse. I have only heard it said by talking heads on an anonymous post- that usually is within the first 20 posts before Allnurses.com throws them off for trolling.

Don't you think the MD's and DO's have the same friction? But I asked a DO had any MD, in his 23 years of practice, EVER disrespected him as a DO? His answer, "no why?"

Just think about this for a second. If all the LPNs/LVNs (Who are Nurses!) in the United States, did not show up to work on Monday, our WHOLE healthcare system would grind to a hault. If half of them didn't show up, the same.

A Nurse is a Nurse is Nurse is a Nurse.

A Duck is a duck is duck is a duck, mallards, wood-ducks, and red-heads, but ALL Ducks!

LPN/LVN, RN, BSN, MSN, FNP, ACNP, ENP, CCRN, CRNA, PSYMHNP, and Ph.D/RN-Yep, . . All Nurses.

When the Johnson & Johnson commercials come on, Do they say, "Be an RN!" or . . .

"Be A Nurse!" A nurse is nurse is a nurse. And I am proud to call them ALL my colleague!, and . . .A Real Nurse!!!

Merlyn · Apr 8, 2012

Because a long time ago, we LPN's were trained differently the RN's. LPN's use to know the hows - how to make a bed,how to change a patient, how to do cough and deep breathing exercises. The RN's knew the whys. The lab values, reason for heart attacks, and so forth. But now days the LPN's can do about the same things. In the Veteran's clinic I go to the RN is in an office and LPNs run the place. I don't know why anyone would say we are not nurses except we are on a different education and responsibility level than the RN's and the RNs are on a different level than the RN BSN and so forth..

kids · Apr 8, 2012

BUT your tone is not very supportive of LPNs. You failed to note that Enrolled Nurses are the Australian equivalent of LPNs.

I'm sorry you feel that way, I'm not sure what you mean by tone but I'm fairly certain your reading more into my words than I intended.

I failed to note Enrolled nurses in Australia being equivelent to LPN because I don't know that and they (apparently) aren't called Licensed Practical Nurses.

I posted what I do know: with few exceptions outside the US and Canada name "Licensed Practical Nurse" isn't recognized.

My point was that the educational requirements for the LPN can be so variable just in the US, that it is difficult to quantify in terms of other countries educational and licensure requirements.

I wasn't intending to beat any horse, old or otherwise.

I wasn't trying to stir anything up.

I wasn't implying that LPNs aren't nurses, the license says nurse so they are.

Limerick4CCRN · Apr 8, 2012

Kids, relax, sometimes people are just on Offense mode, your point is well recieved, and Factually based.

RN2LuvU · Apr 8, 2012

Kids, relax, sometimes people are just on Offense mode, your point is well recieved, and Factually based.

Toooooooootally Agree, Offense and Defensive Mode!

NamasteNurse, BSN, RN · Apr 8, 2012

I have never heard this where I work.

RN/Mom · Apr 8, 2012

I wonder if one's perspective on this issue might depend on the state in which they are practicing? In CA, where I work as an LVN, our scope of practice is very limited -- so much so that I feel as though I am held back from fully caring for my patients, which can be frustrating.

Assessments, initial pt teaching, taking verbal orders, IV meds, IV fluids with additives of any kind, and anything with central lines (except maybe a dressing change) are all duties exclusively reserved for RNs according to our state's practice act.

How can LVNs in CA truly feel like "real nurses" with such a long list of important nursing tasks we are restricted from performing? I know that I don't.

For example, I hate having to say to one of my patients in pain: "I'll let your RN know that you're in pain and would like your IV morphine. It'll be just a few minutes." Wouldn't a "real nurse" have license to tend to the patient's needs independently? I say yes.

(I am not trying to offend or disrespect anyone by saying this. I am just sharing my personal point of view and feelings on the matter!)

nurse2many · Apr 8, 2012

What a nonsense this thread is, all of these posts over the years for nothing. No matter who you are, what you do, what your opinion is - how mad you are that you have to call a LPN a nurse - LPN stands for licensed practical nurse and it's just that, a nurse. Until something changes and a different title will be awarded to LPN's, you have to address them as such, a nurse.

:smokin:

Fiona59 · Apr 8, 2012

Kids, relax, sometimes people are just on Offense mode, your point is well recieved, and Factually based.

Aw, shucks. I've upset a couple of RNs. Everything I've said is factually based. Learn to look outside your own US mindset.

Hurleynurse · Apr 10, 2012

LPN's ARE nurses. They just have a little less schooling than RN's. That's like saying an RN with an ADN degree isn't really a nurse because they don't have a BSN.