Philippines produces more than 25,000 nurses a year!

  1. There is no shortage of nurses in the Philippines.

    The law of supply and demand is at work, that's why Phil. RNs are under-paid (security guards are even paid higher). For the same reason, due to the high demand of nurses in the US, US RNs are paid relatively higher now than before compared to other professions.

    That's why Filipinos are taking this opportunity! Doctors are becoming nurses. Lawyers are becoming nurses. Engineers are becoming nurses. Computer programmers are becoming nurses. Housewives are becoming nurses.

    This window of opportunity will last for about 10 years more from now as the baby-boomer generation gets older until their retirement.

    We are already citizens of the world. We are now adjusting to globalization.
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  2. 14 Comments

  3. by   Tweety
    Great post. You and your fellow Filipinos can be proud of the difference in the Global Community you have made, while helping your own lives. My place of employment would be very short staffed without the help of qualified Filipino nurses.

    I only hope the standards remain high, without corruption, and good quality nurses with compassion for others continue to be produced and the nurses who only want a high paycheck, but don't care for people are weeded out.
  4. by   tantrum
    There could be more than 25,000. From the CHED record, they already have more than 292,000 Nursing students from more than 400 schools.
    There were more than 40,000 examinees in the last Phil Board exam. Granted that only 17,000 made it, you can expect about the same number of passers sometime in December. So we are actually producing about 30,000 RN's per year. What about those who did not even bother to take the local boards?
    I agree that there is an oversupply of nurses but they should check for quality and close down all schools with 0% passing. They are cheatin their students of a good Nursing education.
  5. by   Tweety
    Quote from tantrum
    I agree that there is an oversupply of nurses but they should check for quality and close down all schools with 0% passing. They are cheatin their students of a good Nursing education.

    I agree. I hope the standards remain high. It sounds to me that schools are popping up everywhere and spitting out students, taking their money, and taking advantage of the worldwide nursing shortage without concern for quality.

    Also, I'm concerned that fixers out there are promising things and taking money from students and letting corrupt students through.

    Also, concerned that everyone is jumping on the nursing bandwagon, without a real interest in nursing, but money.

    I worked with six Filipino nurses fresh from the Philippines, and they all were excellent and well trained. As I said, you can be proud. The hoops to get through to the US and other countries seem to weed out the ones who can't cut it.
  6. by   jmgrn65
    Well I may have one of the exceptions, she just started working about 3 weeks ago used to be a dentist, she didn't actually go to nursing school. But took some classes came here and passed state boards. She has no practical skills, doesn't know how to draw up injectable medicines, no clue what size syringe/needle to use, assessment skills are minimal listens to bowel sounds through blankets. She is learning fairly quick but it is like having a nursing student instead of new grad. It is just scary that she hasn't been to a nursing school but has a BSN I don't quite get it. It is going to take twice as long to orient/trian her because we are just about starting at scratch she is very smart, just doesn't have the skills.
  7. by   tantrum
    Quote from jmgrn65
    Well I may have one of the exceptions, she just started working about 3 weeks ago used to be a dentist, she didn't actually go to nursing school. But took some classes came here and passed state boards. She has no practical skills, doesn't know how to draw up injectable medicines, no clue what size syringe/needle to use, assessment skills are minimal listens to bowel sounds through blankets. She is learning fairly quick but it is like having a nursing student instead of new grad. It is just scary that she hasn't been to a nursing school but has a BSN I don't quite get it. It is going to take twice as long to orient/trian her because we are just about starting at scratch she is very smart, just doesn't have the skills.
    This is one of those unfortunate cases. I'm also puzzled how you can get a BSN without going to a Nursing school. Most likely she took a lot of short-cuts and was able to pass NCLEX without going through CGFNS. If you are working in Ohio, do they require CES (full course credentialling) with CGFNS? Maybe she's one of those who fell thru the cracks as a CES would have investigated all her courses in Nursing school.
  8. by   Daning
    I think Ohio BON does not require CES anymore unlike other states. Although there are also some states who does like Florida.

    As suzanne4 has mentioned in one of her posts, one doesn't need to pass local boards to get nclex. and a typical example is this dentist turned nurse case. well, some things like this just really happens. it's a bit "burden" to the hospital, especially to the staff she's working with, but it's also a great risk on her part. a simple mistake might just put her in jeopardy. so she really need to catch up fast in learning and developing the nursing skills in her.
  9. by   suzanne4
    Unfortunately, there are some schools in the Philippines that are essentially selling diplomas, and the BSN comes along with it.

    How in the heck can a student carry 55 credits in one term with many of the courses overlapping? And it is supposed to be an accelerated program?

    I hope that one of these nurses has to care for one of the parents of these people that are only selling the title. And I hope that some of you do some further investigating and get them closed done.

    Or many of you are going to find isues with trying to work in the US. There are already hospitals that are having second thoughts over some nurses from there because of the fraudulent degrees, and that is exactly what they are.
  10. by   suzanne4
    And while we are on the subject, there also needs to be some investigating done of the owners of some of the review centers there that claim to have licenses in the US, and in several states, but no record of them can be found in said states.

    I get more frustrated on a daily basis by the stories that I hear about. All it takes is a few bad apples to make it bad for everyone else, and the biggest problem is that the few are actually suceeding in doing just that. Thy do not care at all, but just about the money that they get and out in the bank. And will cheat to do just that.
  11. by   mtreyes
    Quote from suzanne4
    And while we are on the subject, there also needs to be some investigating done of the owners of some of the review centers there that claim to have licenses in the US, and in several states, but no record of them can be found in said states.

    I get more frustrated on a daily basis by the stories that I hear about. All it takes is a few bad apples to make it bad for everyone else, and the biggest problem is that the few are actually suceeding in doing just that. Thy do not care at all, but just about the money that they get and out in the bank. And will cheat to do just that.
    I PERFECTLY AGREE WITH YOU.... THERE SHOULD BE A REAL-HONEST TO GOODNESS INVESTIGATION... NOT BY POLITICIANS BUT BY INDEPENDENT PEOPLE..... MAYBE BY THE MEMBERS OF THE ACADEME (NURSING)...
  12. by   gemini_star
    It's so sad hearing those issues. People are getting greedy these days. Taking up nursing for the sole purpose of money and getting rich isn't the fastest and right way. We all have dreams of being a millionaire but it takes loads of hardwork. It is so unfair to people who study hard night and day, do all the process according to rules and especially those who have the heart to take care of patients. But most would do it the easier and faster way without having second thoughts of spending their money. Even their own dreams were neglected because they thought nursing = money would make them happier. Shame on them.
  13. by   FutureUSRN
    I think they will just use that to obtain a GC but eventually will not work as nurses (if don't fall in love with nursing). Filipinos are really good in finding loopholes. I am not advocating this kind of behavior, it is just that I find Filipinos are very wise in circumventing rules and policies.
  14. by   MaleRNstudent21
    Oh my I'm a American and I don't understand how we can be upset with this matter in a sense.Truely this is a problem that should be stoped. But, I say this because America is needed for nurses. And the alot of Filipinos are needed for money. I look at this as a cylce. And its a cycle of distruction that is supported daily. This is kind of a problem with many unwealthy countries and politics. Just like how american government have certain laws to increase money into our country(illegal drug smuggling and drug laws). I mean come on people do you really think the government and leaders in our narcotics police departments tell about the millions they make off illegal drugs? The government is making millions off of it. This is one reason why they try to correct the problem by having laws. It comes back to greed they want all the cash for themselves. And if its not the government people on this force. Yes we see them on the tv every now an than getting everything taken from them which they made illegally.

    I feel that this problem should be taken at hand and dealt with. American Nurse recurtiers and hospitals are hiring them. Well obviously they arent doing enough research in the Phillippines on who these individuals are with these fraudulent practices and degrees. So why isn't the hiring committees researching this matter. I mean why isn't American educators having researchers on these individuals in their home lands? Okay, maybe it would cost alot of money ,but hey wouldnt it better to pay instead of putting innocent patients in harm. It goes back to the thing as how can we be upset with the matter when we are trying to correct the situation?

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