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Nurse 'tried to kill patients' By Valentine Low, Evening Standard 28 April 2004 A hospital nurse was so obsessed with "ruthless efficiency" that she tried to kill four elderly patients to... Read More

  1. by   mattsmom81
    Hmm. I can't help but wonder like Gwenith if this nurses' words were perhaps spoken in a moment of frustration (or typical nurses' sick humor) and things are being blown out of proportion due to vindictiveness. Hope she gets a chance to defend herself fairly.

    When someone is dying slowly, our human response may be to wish to hasten the inevitable demise or provide the least suffering possible...this doesn't make us killers. We also become frustrated at family that 'won't let loved ones go', and with patients who are still full codes when they are obviously failing and terminal. This doesn't make us cold hearted necessarily,. We are humans with our own feelings.

    To me the sensationalism in this story is suspect and I hope clear thinking people investigate this. I've been a victim of vindictive game players in our profession, and tactics are recognizable in this story to those of us who have observed it firsthand.
  2. by   NursesRmofun
    Quote from tamar2020
    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/a...ing%20Standard

    Nurse 'tried to kill patients'
    By Valentine Low, Evening Standard
    28 April 2004


    A hospital nurse was so obsessed with "ruthless efficiency" that she tried to kill four elderly patients to free their beds, a court heard today.

    .
    Talk about brainwashed!
  3. by   purplemania
    she must not have as much paperwork for admits and discharges as we have!
  4. by   nialloh
    Quote from gwenith
    A similar case happened here in Australia - only it turned out to be gossip and sheer nastiness from co-workers. New RN in a small country town had trodden on some feet of some of the more self-important Enrolled Nurses. They were used to doing things a certain way - she would not let them - next thing she is up on murder charges.

    Gwenith, what was the end result. I take it that she got off with it, but what was done about the nurses filing a false claim.
  5. by   Chunter
    The Barbara Salisbury case seems like a chain of errors to me, things were going wrong for a while but nobody did anything about, don't get me wrong, no proportion of blame should be put on anyone other than Barbara Salisbury, but if the chain of errors can be stopped early things don't have to go so far. Yet again, the profession of nursing is in the spotlight because of this awful situation. What a shame that the papers can't find a story everyday about how wonderful the hugh majority of nurses are!!!!
  6. by   Farkinott
    Does anyone have a link to this story?
  7. by   canoehead
  8. by   concernednurse135
    I have been reading this thread and it seems as though a lot of you are jumping to conclusions about this nurse.

    Gwenith and Mattsmom81 could be disturbingly accurate about what has happened.

    I have been following this case through the media coverage both nationally and locally to that area.

    I understand from this that there was a ward battle going on, one of the key witnesses in the case actually admitted in court that he has lied on his police statement in which he accused this nurse of laying a patient flat to die.. as it turns out she was not even on shift when the alleged offence occured... you tell me thats not vindictiveness.

    I understand that all the patients were either DNR or were in for TLC only.
    In the two cases she has been convicted of the drugs were prescribed by doctors and was the minimal starting doses of diamorphine... I dont know about elsewhere in the world but here there has to be two people to administor diamorphine and each one is accountable for that administration. In the NMC code of conduct it says that each nurse is accountable for their own actions and to say that another member of staff pushed you into giving the drug is no form of defence... yet this is what is reported to have happened in court.. nurses were saying she bullied them... well sorry thats no defence as far as I am concerned... they are just as liable as her and should be serving this sentance with her.

    Also in the media coverage it has said that no nurses reported what they see to be attempts at killing patients, to anyone at the time it happened.... whatever happened to clinical incident forms?... or speaking to managers... the whole thing stinks of bullying, and bullying which has gone to the extremes.

    Why has this nurse been jailed? what has she done wrong?
  9. by   Farkinott
    Quote from sharonrn94
    i am going to be an expert witness for an upcoming trial and in search of articles about "dealing with alzhemers /mental patients. anyone know wher i can find these articles?

    thanks for your help

    put this search into google,

    journals alzheimer's elderly demented
  10. by   leslie :-D
    for as old and cynical that i am, i am still paradoxically SO naive and gullible...and i have been the recipient of vindictiveness yet i still just never seem to 'get it'....i retract my original post on this thread with entirely different perspective.
  11. by   JudithwA
    [QUOTE=Chunter]The Barbara Salisbury case seems like a chain of errors to me, things were going wrong for a while but nobody did anything about, don't get me wrong, no proportion of blame should be put on anyone other than Barbara Salisbury, but if the chain of errors can be stopped early things don't have to go so far. Yet again, the profession of nursing is in the spotlight because of this awful situation. What a shame that the papers can't find a story everyday about how wonderful the hugh majority of nurses are!!!![/Q

    Anyway the other vindictive nurses could be lying and she could be totally innocent?? Why not get to know ALL the facts before you make a judgement on one of your own nurses. Any wonder with collegues like you she is where she is!!!!:imbar
  12. by   JudithwA
    Quote from Chunter
    The Barbara Salisbury case seems like a chain of errors to me, things were going wrong for a while but nobody did anything about, don't get me wrong, no proportion of blame should be put on anyone other than Barbara Salisbury, but if the chain of errors can be stopped early things don't have to go so far. Yet again, the profession of nursing is in the spotlight because of this awful situation. What a shame that the papers can't find a story everyday about how wonderful the hugh majority of nurses are!!!!
    No blame should be put on her but the nurses who decided her regime of a caring, nurse who didn't suffer fools gladly was not to their liking. They might have to work too hard!!!
    Last edit by canoehead on Jun 23, '04
  13. by   Chunter
    Quote from JudithwA
    What a shame you can't find out all the facts before you make a judgement. No blame should be put on her but the nurses who decided her regime of a caring, nurse who didn't suffer fools gladly was not to their liking. They might have to work too hard!!!
    The facts are, that the courts found her guilty on the evidence that was presented to them. NO speculation, NO rumours, but facts.

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