Nurse Anaesthetists - page 2

I read in the Nursing Times recently that Nurses were finally being allowed to move deeper within the world of anaesthetics. i awas looking at anaesthetics in the U.S. where not only did i discover... Read More

  1. by   madwife2002
    You know I am all for forward planning but I would concentrate on becoming a registered nurse first, enjoy your training and focus on what you need to get to the USA. When it says that the USA needs nurses that is what they need not specialists-they are desperate for floor nurses. I dont doubt you will have lots to offer but time served and all that.
    I am a RN/RM have upteen qualifications, an honors degree and post grad management qualifications to masters level yet all I am being employed as is a RN.
  2. by   Nurse2BMonique21
    Madwife thanks for your reply. Your correct, I do focus a lot on what I need to do to get my degree, which is why i have achieved all excellent grades so far. I have put in a lot of time an effort investing for my future. However, I dont think there is any harm in somebody putting a lot of time into planning for their future, Im not rich I come from a working class background so I do want the best from my career and im not going to apologise for it either. I know that the USA needs floor nurses and I know what I want out of my career. To me if i am going to be spending a lot of time doing masters, e.t.c I will do a job that will apply those skills learnt. Thats why I am interested in the Anesthesiology program, as after finishing that I can become a CRNA. I have great respect for Madwife's experience but I am achieving at the moment and I am very determined person. I dont know eveything as im only 20 years old, but i do know that whatever I choose to do, I will get it. I also dont believe that in order to progress you need to have tremendous time served, its down to the individual and how quick they can grasp concepts. I rang up an American University and spoke to the director of the CRNA program, she said to me that if it states one year ICU experience needed, then thats what you need. I know a lot of people have more when they apply but i have just as good chance as anyone else, but I do have a career plan in place. Sometimes it upsets me when I speak to people about what I would like to do for my career plans and I feel as if I have to shut up about it/ or the common attitude is because one person hasnt made it or it was difficult for somebody else means that I wont make it, or it will be difficult for me. I may get absolutey shot for saying this, but i feel very strongly about it and I had to say it..Sorry.
  3. by   madwife2002
    Quote from Nurse2BMonique21
    Madwife thanks for your reply. Your correct, I do focus a lot on what I need to do to get my degree, which is why i have achieved all excellent grades so far. I have put in a lot of time an effort investing for my future. However, I dont think there is any harm in somebody putting a lot of time into planning for their future, Im not rich I come from a working class background so I do want the best from my career and im not going to apologise for it either. I know that the USA needs floor nurses and I know what I want out of my career. To me if i am going to be spending a lot of time doing masters, e.t.c I will do a job that will apply those skills learnt. Thats why I am interested in the Anesthesiology program, as after finishing that I can become a CRNA. I have great respect for Madwife's experience but I am achieving at the moment and I am very determined person. I dont know eveything as im only 20 years old, but i do know that whatever I choose to do, I will get it. I also dont believe that in order to progress you need to have tremendous time served, its down to the individual and how quick they can grasp concepts. I rang up an American University and spoke to the director of the CRNA program, she said to me that if it states one year ICU experience needed, then thats what you need. I know a lot of people have more when they apply but i have just as good chance as anyone else, but I do have a career plan in place. Sometimes it upsets me when I speak to people about what I would like to do for my career plans and I feel as if I have to shut up about it/ or the common attitude is because one person hasnt made it or it was difficult for somebody else means that I wont make it, or it will be difficult for me. I may get absolutey shot for saying this, but i feel very strongly about it and I had to say it..Sorry.
    I commend your enthusiasm and I am sure you will succeed in what ever you choose to do. I dont think you should shut up or apologise about your plans I have always had a career plan in place and I have been very successful in the UK but there are good strong foundations to be built and then you will make a compassionate, understanding individual as well as successful. Advice is what it is advice, I have been a long time in nursing and whilst you may think I am old hat there is a lot of life left in the old dog yet lol.
    Dont forget about the human element on your way to the top.:wink2:
  4. by   sunnyjohn
    Quote from Nurse2BMonique21
    Madwife thanks for your reply. Your correct, I do focus a lot on what I need to do to get my degree, which is why i have achieved all excellent grades so far. I have put in a lot of time an effort investing for my future. However, I dont think there is any harm in somebody putting a lot of time into planning for their future, Im not rich I come from a working class background so I do want the best from my career and im not going to apologise for it either. I know that the USA needs floor nurses and I know what I want out of my career. To me if i am going to be spending a lot of time doing masters, e.t.c I will do a job that will apply those skills learnt. Thats why I am interested in the Anesthesiology program, as after finishing that I can become a CRNA. I have great respect for Madwife's experience but I am achieving at the moment and I am very determined person. I dont know eveything as im only 20 years old, but i do know that whatever I choose to do, I will get it. I also dont believe that in order to progress you need to have tremendous time served, its down to the individual and how quick they can grasp concepts. I rang up an American University and spoke to the director of the CRNA program, she said to me that if it states one year ICU experience needed, then thats what you need. I know a lot of people have more when they apply but i have just as good chance as anyone else, but I do have a career plan in place. Sometimes it upsets me when I speak to people about what I would like to do for my career plans and I feel as if I have to shut up about it/ or the common attitude is because one person hasnt made it or it was difficult for somebody else means that I wont make it, or it will be difficult for me. I may get absolutey shot for saying this, but i feel very strongly about it and I had to say it..Sorry.
    First let me start by saying, Please do not be offended by what I am about to post.

    I am only a few years older than you, but I remember well being as determined at 21. I graduated HS very young and was VERY gifted. I have more educational training than is normal for someone my age, all as a result of being a quick study. I am also the product of humble financial beginnings. I am still very driven so you remind me of myself.

    I am sure you are dedicated and I have no doubt you will make it.

    Many people find that others are less than excited to hear about their career plans. This happens to pre-nursing students, students with lofty advanced parctice plans, RNs who wish to pursue higher education or switch fields and go into medicine or business.

    Many of those who post here and the CRNAs get annoyed when folks post stuff like, "I wanna be a CRNA", swear up and down they've done their research into the field but can only quote the most basic requirements (like the 1 year ICU requirements and the payscale). Many of them have never met a CRNA or even talked to one.They don't research the cons (the difficulties of CRNA study, malpractice insurance, practice issues, time away from family, call time, etc)

    Watching a CRNA in action during thousands of surgeries and being able to 'compare/contrast' them to MDA's in real life has been an eye-opener for me. Witnessing a CRNA in action during an episode of Malignant hypothermia sealed it for me.


    I have NO problem with money discussions among future nurse. As a financial counselor (one of my many careers), I usually throw myself right into the fray. Check out my post history!

    Being focused is good. Having tunnel vison is deadly to any goal. One thing life/experience teaches you is that things happen. Life has a way of throwing obstacles in our plans. The trick is to make your dreams come true in spite of the difficulties. Successful people learn to take those obstacles and build an even BETTER (perhaps shorter and sweeter) path to that dream.

    Truly Madwife was not attacking you, She just wanted to help you get the full picture of the task ahead of you. Her advice is sound. Your journey will be long and sometimes hard as well as fun and exciting. ENJOY EVERY MINUTE OF THE JOURNEY!

    Life flies by. Before you know it you will be living your dream. Happiness comes in learning to enjoy the journey!
  5. by   sunnyjohn
    Oh, and please keep posting. I enjoy reading your post and watching your happy chicken avatar!
  6. by   Nurse2BMonique21
    hi ya..thank you for the last two posts. I guess i am so eager to succeed as i have had quite a lot of obstacles. It seems nothing i have acheived in my life has come easy and i really want to achieve. Sometimes i can get a bit ahead of myself though, so i agree with you both. I need to relax and enjoy it, thank you for your advice guys im happy to recieve some words of wisdom, dont really get much of it not having a family round me..xxxx
  7. by   english_nurse
    You sound quite wise to me, and considering your age, quite focused on your future. This is a refreshing change from the get drunk, vomit or pee in doorway culture of many your age
    good luck
  8. by   Nurse2BMonique21
    lol english nurse....believe me its hard when i have to pretend to be that kind if of person to just get along with my peers...feels like im going mad..
  9. by   madwife2002
    Quote from english_nurse
    You sound quite wise to me, and considering your age, quite focused on your future. This is a refreshing change from the get drunk, vomit or pee in doorway culture of many your age
    good luck
    I did a lot of that in my early nursing years and it was great fun
  10. by   english_nurse
    tsk tsk shame on you lol
    acually what bothers me is the binge drink culture that seems to be ruining our towns and cities, i find it all very sad
    that, along with the 30 year olds with liver/kidney failure
    sad really
    i love a drink and have spent many a night falling down drunk in my youth but it was infrequent, like most people i knew, now it just seems to be the norm for most.
    had a funny experiance the last time i went out for a drink actually, four of the filipinos from the ward came, i asked them what they wanted to drink and they said 'bacardi breezers' i asked what flavors they all wanted and they said 'watermelon', i said right, four bacardi breezers then and they said, no just one and four glasses. lmao
    cheap night out
  11. by   expatnurse
    Please can any one tell me where the school is that is offering a CRNA course in the UK from a very interested ICU nurse thanks alot!!
  12. by   Nurse2BMonique21
    Hi, unfortuanetly we do not have a CRNA course here in the Uk. However, aprently at the end of this year, and it is already being piloted. They will be doing a new course, which will enable you to become Anaesthestic Practitioner. Salary...HAHA nowhere near as they would pay you in the USA. A Far Cry. Lets just leave it at that. http://www.rcoa.ac.uk/index.asp?PageID=761 Rumours are that it will be around 50k once qualified, im not sure whether thats optimistic, or pessimistic. Somebody else may knowmore. Good luck x
  13. by   tracy9559
    this is very timely for me as i have just yesterday seen a posting at my trust for an AP. just doing some research about it. i had looked into Nurse anesthetist in the states but there it's a very intensive MSN program and they really discourage you from working during the program, a little difficult to contemplate as a single mom!!
    but what i've seen posted is a 27 month F grade trainee position, and looking at the AP website you can go on to get a master's (which i would cause i don't trust their "certificates"....)
    anyway, i figure, i have a BSN, 10+ years in critical care, working in an ITU here in birmingham with no prospects of moving up, so what do i have to lose, the trainee position is a promotion for me!!!

    i'm wondering, when you say 50K, is that 50K or $50K????
    50K i could be very happy with!!! i'm not out to get rich, just want to get out of ITU and into something i can do til i retire!!

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