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Hello everyone, i heard the retrogression might end in August. Let us continue to pray for the best.... Read More

  1. by   suzanne4
    Those dates that you are hearing about are rumors that were started by others to get you to do things. Do not fall for any of that. The CIR is just floating in the wind right now, think of it as a kite that no one knows where it will land. It is far from being signed, so how in the world can anyone be talking of dates for this and dates for that.

    Just a bunch of garbage and means absolutely nothing. More than likely more rumors started by agencies in Manila. And there have been many, they crop up daily. Do not beleive a word about any dates with the CIR. We do not even know if nurses will even be included with the CIR; so how in the world can they be posting about specific dates?

    That is totally insane and crazy.
  2. by   FutureUSRN
    It appears clearly now that under the point system, foreign nurses will be disadvantaged. Registered nursing in the US does not require a bachelor degree thus, it does not qualify as "specialty occupation"; therefore they cannot get 20 pts. for that.
  3. by   FutureUSRN
    I think the cut-off dates that we are hearing about are products of the interpretation of the new immigration bill. In the bill, it is said that the "pending or approved" petition will be grand-fathered if it is filed before the "introduction of this bill" AND approved or pending before the "effectivity of this bill".

    In the interpretation, they assume that the "introduction of this bill" is May 2007 and the "effectivity of this bill" is Oct. 2008.

    So if this interpretation is correct, only those which was filed before the May 2007 cut-off day will be grand-fathered. If you filed it after the May 2007 Cut-off date, then it will only retain its priority date but will have to follow the procedures to be set by DHS under the mandate of this bill (if it becomes a law). However, since this bill will set to remove the Schedule A DOL certification, and you filed it under that, it will have risk of being denied. Currently, DHS won't act on any EB1-2-3 petition filed after the introduction of this bill because of what they call "changes in legislation in the foreseeable future"
  4. by   lawrence01
    Quote from FutureUSRN
    I think the cut-off dates that we are hearing about are products of the interpretation of the new immigration bill. In the bill, it is said that the "pending or approved" petition will be grand-fathered if it is filed before the "introduction of this bill" AND approved or pending before the "effectivity of this bill".

    In the interpretation, they assume that the "introduction of this bill" is May 2007 and the "effectivity of this bill" is Oct. 2008.

    So if this interpretation is correct, only those which was filed before the May 2007 cut-off day will be grand-fathered. If you filed it after the May 2007 Cut-off date, then it will only retain its priority date but will have to follow the procedures to be set by DHS under the mandate of this bill (if it becomes a law). However, since this bill will set to remove the Schedule A DOL certification, and you filed it under that, it will have risk of being denied. Currently, DHS won't act on any EB1-2-3 petition filed after the introduction of this bill because of what they call "changes in legislation in the foreseeable future"
    Yes, you are correct but this is just one interpretation from someone or one organization and this is also presuming that it is passed into law (it is not yet a law - it has not even passed the Senate yet as of the moment) and the cut-off dates sabadao22 and others were relaying were all in the year 2005 and not May 2007.

    And it is the USCIS (US Citizenship and Immigration Services) and not the DHS (Dept. of Homeland Security) that caters to immigration. Petitions are not filed to DHS but to USCIS only so any proper interpretation and execution of new immigration laws (if ever there will be one) will come from USCIS.
  5. by   mpoova
    Quote from suzanne4
    Those dates that you are hearing about are rumors that were started by others to get you to do things. Do not fall for any of that. The CIR is just floating in the wind right now, think of it as a kite that no one knows where it will land. It is far from being signed, so how in the world can anyone be talking of dates for this and dates for that.

    Just a bunch of garbage and means absolutely nothing. More than likely more rumors started by agencies in Manila. And there have been many, they crop up daily. Do not beleive a word about any dates with the CIR. We do not even know if nurses will even be included with the CIR; so how in the world can they be posting about specific dates?

    That is totally insane and crazy.
    Dear Suzanna,

    I know you are in the right boat up there and see things in better way.

    We hear that CIR is comprehensive and all immigrant related matter will be treated in it for years to come, including nurses.

    From your comments, I just see two things.

    1. This CIR has remote chance to be signed and becomes law in its current available draft, dicussion amenedments.

    2. There may not be something specific for visa retrogresion for nurses in the CIR (if at all signed) , but there will be a law in the near future which releases some green cards as a releif to nurses . But it will not be comprehensive.

    Please correct me if my understanding is not right !
  6. by   jtanga
    I'm really confused.....disadvantage on foreign nurse?
  7. by   lost_stranger
    In theroy, what would be the most likely cut-off date for petitions?
    The bill was introduced on 9th May and the Senate debate commenced on 21st May. Or would they disregard the exact date of introduction and just impose cut-off as since May'07.
    Is there a precedent of any immigration act having retroactive action on petitions filed prior to its existence?
    My petition was filed on 7th May so keeping my fingers crossed.
  8. by   lawrence01
    Quote from lost_stranger
    In theroy, what would be the most likely cut-off date for petitions?
    The bill was introduced on 9th May and the Senate debate commenced on 21st May. Or would they disregard the exact date of introduction and just impose cut-off as since May'07.
    Is there a precedent of any immigration act having retroactive action on petitions filed prior to its existence?
    My petition was filed on 7th May so keeping my fingers crossed.
    Right now, no one really knows for sure until the final draft is indeed signed and the CIR actually becomes law. Official cut-off dates will only be known if that time actually comes. Anything discussed beforehand are just based on speculation, personal interpretations of individuals or organizations/groups and are all non-bearing.

    Just keep crossing your fingers, though and hope for the best.
  9. by   juliuscesar1212
    hi,
    i found this link about merit based immigration that might affect registered nurses [color=#334477]http://www.nfap.com/pdf/0706pointsystem.pdf
  10. by   suzanne4
    I would not even focus on one bit of that, we do not even know if nurses will be included in the CIR. There is not one thing that has come out that is proof that nurses will be under that. Changes are coming out frequently, almost now at a rate that is too fast to count.

    Even while I was sleeping, there were changes that were made and were posted this morning.
  11. by   po2dada
    i am confused betweeen the filing of ds-230 and I-485 Applications.are these all for RN or they are different...thanks
  12. by   Silverdragon102
    Quote from po2dada
    i am confused betweeen the filing of ds-230 and I-485 Applications.are these all for RN or they are different...thanks
    DS230 all have to complete. I485 is for AOS which currently is not being accepted
  13. by   canterbury009
    Hi Guys.Wew..I have been waiting for 3 years now for my EB3 Visa but here I am again caught by another retrogression..There are no other ways I think of but to wait again..i don't know till when...You guys think that 3 years is too long for an immigration process?My case has been approved,I already received my visa bill too..whoahhh waiting is a pain in the ___....I heard retrogression will be lift up on october.Hopefully it will..

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