Today's Dr. Phil shocker: Nursing home abuse - page 2

by GLORIAmunchkin72 10,004 Views | 57 Comments

Or more specifically elder abuse. A woman states this particular nursing home has been abusing her mother for 2 years. Would you wait that long to remove your mother if you believed she was? Something not quite right here.... Read More


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    Quote from NurseDirtyBird
    Then there are those family members that show up only on Easter and Christmas and complain about absolutely everything at those times. If they'd been in to visit their family member at some point before that, we may have been able to resolve these issues long ago...the valid ones anyway.
    Probably the same folk who show up at church services on Easter and Christmas.

    Goes back to my "guilties" theory. Their lack of visiting is now compensated by their quantity of complaining. That is, making up for lost time!
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    Quote from Nascar nurse
    I am a DON in LTC and I just want you to know I agree with you 1000%. Unfortunately it's not my call to make either. Some of these families are absolutely insane in their demands. I've got one family member that begins every single conversation with "Good afternoon. This is Jane Doe's son the lawyer. I want you to fix ____. Call me in an hour and tell me what you did". Yea...kiss my ___sir because there is someone a lot sicker down the hall than your dear sweet (manipulative) mother. Tried to talk the administrator into assisting with alternative placement but no such luck.
    Yeah right, next time he calls ask him what he EVER got accomplished in the legal system in an hour.

    -redhead nurse the lawyer (lol)
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    Quote from NurseDirtyBird
    Then there are those family members that show up only on Easter and Christmas and complain about absolutely everything at those times. If they'd been in to visit their family member at some point before that, we may have been able to resolve these issues long ago...the valid ones anyway.
    They do this at the hospital too, show up on day 5 of an admission and tell us EVERYTHING we've done wrong, and how "his sheets haven't been changed for 5 days." And how long have you been here to get all this info? Oh, 2 hours. Okay, I'll get right on that.
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    This topic makes my blood boil!! I'm a DON in assisted living and I deal with these prima-donna families all. the. time. They are the bane of long-term care, and in AL especially, these people expect concierge service and have the gall to be upset when we have to remind them that we really aren't a luxury hotel.

    I am sick of co-signing their B.S. during care plan meetings, just because Corporate doesn't want to lose a high-acuity resident who's private pay: "Oh, of course your Dad doesn't need to go to a nursing home" when "Dad" can't even feed himself anymore; three staff members have been injured in the past month because he needs to be moved with a mechanical lift and we don't have them in AL; and he has to be transferred onto the toilet by 2-3 aides literally every 20-30 minutes while awake because he has severe urinary retention and his daughter won't even hear of using a catheter. )

    Yes, there are also good families, and they are treasured for their helpfulness and their resources for handling Mom or Dad's needs. They often know something is amiss with their loved ones before we do, and their promptness in notifying us of the changes have undoubtedly saved lives. It's the ones like the daughter described above that stick in my craw, and unfortunately all it takes is a few people like that to make life miserable for all concerned.
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    To Viva - doesn't inappropriate level of care requirements affect you somehow in your regs??? I mean you must be being surveyed by someone? And just have something go drastically south and those families will screaming holy heck!

    Please know that I'm not telling YOU anything you probably haven't tried bringing up to your powers-that-be. But WOW!! I see so many issues --- but I guess the almighty dollar is corporate's golden idol. And for the family who isn't facing the need for higher level of care needs because of that golden idol also.

    Talk about abuse (in a different definition)...
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    Oh, shows like Dr Phil are just trashy and melodramatic. I'm sure they'll play the "evil music" when they show the resident with bruises on his arm so the audience gets their cue to think "bad nurses". Cause we all know the only *possible* way a 90 year old on coumadin therapy could bruise is by staff abusing them....
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    ooppppssssss
    Last edit by txspadequeenRN on Jan 9, '13 : Reason: I was dumb
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    i cant say A-MEN loud enough......




    Quote from brown eyed girl
    Absolutely not! I work in LTC and A LOT family members act like the floor staff are incompetent and are mistreating or abusing their loved one yet they NEVER remove them! I don't get it! You are always rude and condescending to the staff, always threating to sue the facility, but as soon as the patient has to be transferred to the ER for further evaluation (not necessarily because of distress) and remains out of the facility for almost a week, the POA/RP NEVER OBJECTS to the hospital sending them back to the same big bad nursing home that they swear is negligent. I can't stand how they always have issues EVERY TIME THEY COME BUT THEY NEVER COME TO CAREPLAN! And the families that do have legitimate concerns and do come to all careplan meeting yet remain CHRONICALLY UNSATISFIED for whatever reason, will not remove the patient! These are also the same people who are always calling the state on the facility. What I also don't understand is WHY the facilities continue to kiss these people's behind when THEY KNOW the family is NEVER SATISFIED; when they should be saying to them in their kindest, most professional but stern tone is: We have done all that you have asked and corrected our mistakes, yet you remain unsatisfied with the care we are providing. So, since you remain unhappy, we are going to assist you in finding placement in another facility of your choosing or from this prepared list of long term care providers within in a 50 mile radius from your current address. It makes no sense in trying to "satisfy" the customer who is never satisfied. More often than not in healthcare, the customer IS NOT ALWAYS RIGHT.
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    Quote from Nascar nurse
    I am a DON in LTC and I just want you to know I agree with you 1000%. Unfortunately it's not my call to make either. Some of these families are absolutely insane in their demands. I've got one family member that begins every single conversation with "Good afternoon. This is Jane Doe's son the lawyer. I want you to fix ____. Call me in an hour and tell me what you did". Yea...kiss my ___sir because there is someone a lot sicker down the hall than your dear sweet (manipulative) mother. Tried to talk the administrator into assisting with alternative placement but no such luck.
    What's with administration pandering to these people? It's really not worth it. Why don't these Administrators get it through their heads that there will always be sick, elderly, demented people with or without money. I also don't understand WHY when the patient has had a stroke and has paralysis, the family INSISTS on feeding them solid food when they know they are on a mechanical soft or pureed diet and has issues with swallowing; then, when they turn up with aspiration pneumonia and you call them with the resident's condition change, EVERYONE IN THE FAMILY IS CLUELESS and begins to suspect the facility abusing their mother! They have been told over and over again, yet they continue to do it never once thinking that THEY ARE ABUSING THEIR MOTHER! Or, what about the little man who weighs 110 lbs, has poor meal intake, has Alzheimer's and completely demented and has every chronic condition known to man, and the family has him as a FULL CODE! THAT'S ABUSE!
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    I wouldn't underestimate Dr. Phil too much. He reaches a lot of people and carries a lot of weight (figuratively speaking and otherwise?), however I was surprised that he got on the bandwagon with this grown woman who seems to be in her right mind, documented every sign of 'abuse' for TWO YEARS and when asked why she waited two years to remove her mother from such an abusive place she meekly replied: "I didn't know I could". Now, give me a break!!!

    Quote from BrandonLPN
    Oh, shows like Dr Phil are just trashy and melodramatic. I'm sure they'll play the "evil music" when they show the resident with bruises on his arm so the audience gets their cue to think "bad nurses". Cause we all know the only *possible* way a 90 year old on coumadin therapy could bruise is by staff abusing them....
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