BSN student with an attitude - page 2
A girl I know casually is going for her BSN and she said something that just really irritated me. I am going for my ADN. She has flunked out of one her prereq classes already and is about to flunk... Read More
Dec 12, '02Originally posted by Mel D
Let's just all agree that is hard!
Dec 12, '02I've got about a zero tolerance level right now so I probably would've said "it might be easier, but first you've got to get through pre reqs & get accepted" If she isn't passing the pre-reqs than she probably isn't going to soar though any program. I know I'm not very nice...but I agree that same argument gets old People like that suck.
Dec 12, '02I am in school for my BSN. The only differences I see are these: we take pathophysiology I and II, pharmacology, and have an acute care rotation. These are the only differences in my area, as far as I know.
But why does it matter if we are all working toward the same goal?
I have a friend who is in an ADN, and we spend our time supporting one another, not complaining about one another's programs.
Maybe someone is jealous of your success???
Dec 12, '02She's blowing smoke, or smoking something. She's the one failing prereqs. It's hard to call yourself a BSN student when you're not in the program and failing prereqs.
This is a consider the source and a bit of sour grapes. Try to ignore it.
Dec 12, '02Teresa, DON"T let her bother you. I am in a BSN program. 97% of my classmates are between 21-25. NONE of us think we are any better just because we are in a BSN program. We know better than that. MOST people no better. MOST nursing programs are identical. What seperates the 2-3 year from the 4-5 year for MOST people is the simple fact that the BSN have a whole lot of extra theory classes like extra history, literature, social sciences, etc that the ADN does not require but when it truly boils down to it we are basically learning the same nursing content. For the MOST part. IT is HARD any route you go and if that girl thinks it is easier to be in the ADN program she is going to have an EXTREME rude awakening. She will find that the grass is not always greener on the other side and it is no different.
Dec 14, '02At my campus of PSU we don't have these debates at all because you have to have your RN before you can enter the BSN program....then you go at your own pace and finish the degree. (At other campus locations you can work straight through for the BSN) Anyway the same instructors teach classes in both degrees here and they are always telling us that the ADN is difficult because we take the same NCLEX exam as BSN students. Therefor, we must be as prepared as they are for direct nursing care and the responisibilities that go with it.
I am planning to get my BSN, but I will already be working as an RN when I enroll in the classes this Fall.
I must conclude then that the BSN nursing classes will not teach me anything about being a nurse, rather it will be a more detailed look at nursing specialties (death and dying, ostomies, etc..) and a deeper look at myself and my personal goals and interests.
Dec 14, '02I say the same thing Teresa, do not let it bother you... Our Community College ADN program is set up so that you can take the A&P I and II as a pre-requisite or co-requisite. Either way they have to be done. It is a shame that she feels that she could take an easier route by doing the ADN program. One of the first things it says on the ADN informational pamphlet for our school is "very academically chanlenging but rewarding program". I think that she will find this to be the case as well..
Dec 14, '02The way she is flunking out of things left and right indicates a strong possiblity that she will not make it thourgh any program.
Dec 14, '02You will NEVER find a shortage of those who are trying to convince other people that they are "special" and "superior" in the field of nursing (particularly, it seems, when their actual performance proves this not to be the case). You might as well get used to ignoring them now as later (and you are NOT going to change any of them, so don't waste your time trying). Just think of them as examples you DON'T want to follow. IMHOLast edit by sjoe on Dec 14, '02
Dec 14, '02She's flunking out does that tell you anything. Forget her.
We have a new CNA on staff. Said her mom got her Doctorate in nursing from Regents College. Really! They don't offer a doctorate in anything let alone nursing. I did not tell her this.
She said she was working on her RN through them. Plausable, as she does qualify as an EMT. (assuming she is an EMT and did not lie about that)
I asked how it was going and she said she did not know as she just got her study materials that day.
Ok, Now it seems she's going to fire school, will go through paramedic training. And Oh, yea, she says she won't ever become a nurse as she is going to go to medical school instead. Hmm.
Just ignore this girl she needs to try and justify her failing school.
If you want to play, you could encourage her to try the ADN program. She probably will have an excue not to. and if she actually takes the bait well she will learn what you couldn't have convinced her.