Where is the shortage??

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Specializes in ED, Telemetry,Hospice, ICU, Supervisor.

I have been crawling around through the forums for a while now even before I opened up my account and every now and then someone will mention something about a " nursing shortage". I would very much like to know where this is happening specifically what state. There are also "reports" that I hear about stating that certain parts of the country are in dire need of adequate staffing, I would very much appreciate if you could send me a link to these "reports" so I can read for my self where the data is coming from.

As far as I know out here in California we have a nursing excess of RN new grads being produced every year from multiple CSU and CC. I have talked to a few new grads and they tell me this "shortage" doesn't exist. I was told they had applied to hospitals, LTC, and SNF. The only ones I know that got jobs after getting their RN license are the ones who got into their hospital system before they got into the program. CHW up north is Unionized so they got a job working as an operator making announcements, not much on pay but got them into the system. 2 years later they graduated RN and got a job almost immediately because they had access to all the internal position openings. From my understanding they also had two years of time in service at the hospital which gave them seniority, one of those union clauses from what i was told.

Specializes in Med/Surg.

I don't believe there is a nursing shortage any longer. Except maybe in rural areas.

The problem is that there us a different type of shortage. Yes, babyboomers will get sick and require healthcare workers such as nurses, the problem is that it's not an economical shortage.

The shortage is in the figurative need for nurses rather than the monetary support for nurses. The public does not see this. So yea we need nurses... But until hospitals offer the jobs to support the idea of a nursing shortage we will be left with an excess of nurses.

The demand is there by societal standards but not by economical :( sucks for new grads like me. Lol

Hope that made sense, I'm tired but am not sleeping

Specializes in Case mgmt., rehab, (CRRN), LTC & psych.
I would very much like to know where this is happening specifically what state.
Look to the areas where most people would not want to live (read: North Dakota).
Specializes in ED, Telemetry,Hospice, ICU, Supervisor.
The problem is that there us a different type of shortage. Yes, babyboomers will get sick and require healthcare workers such as nurses, the problem is that it's not an economical shortage.

The shortage is in the figurative need for nurses rather than the monetary support for nurses. The public does not see this. So yea we need nurses... But until hospitals offer the jobs to support the idea of a nursing shortage we will be left with an excess of nurses.

The demand is there by societal standards but not by economical :( sucks for new grads like me. Lol

Hope that made sense, I'm tired but am not sleeping

So its not that there are not enough new grads to fill open positions, its that management does not want to pay nurses at the rates they want. Therefore positions remain unfilled making it look like there aren't applicants perpetuating this "nursing shortage".

Specializes in ED, Telemetry,Hospice, ICU, Supervisor.
Look to the areas where most people would not want to live (read: North Dakota).

Thanks for the intel, really helped out

Specializes in Float.

Just a big lie from the ANA and Department of Labor, you believe that mess if you want to. Nursing shortage with almost every college and university pumping out RNs like a TV dinner and many new grads unemployed...this profession is looking not so bright for the future.

Specializes in Peds Hem, Onc, Med/Surg.

Not in Florida that is for sure.

Not in Illinois.

Specializes in Psych, Med/Surg, LTC.

There is no nursing shortage obviously. I heard from a seminar that the average age of a nurse in the USA is 50 years old. So there you go folks.....12 to 15 years down the line, there just might be another "nursing shortage".

Look to the areas where most people would not want to live (read: North Dakota).

Unless you have lived there (North Dakota), I wouldn't discredit it. Beautiful place to live with exceptionally hardworking,well-educated, kind people with one of the lowest unemployment (and crime) rates in the country :)

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