Where can I get male only patients?

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Im a male CNA and I've worked In a facility where males were not even allowed to have female residents. If there were females in the assignment they would swap them for a male with a female CNA.

I've recently joined another facility and I don't think it's the same.

For religious reasons I cannot do females.

I cannot understand how, in a non life/death situation, where a male and female CNA is available, a male CNA is changing/toileting, cleaning and dressing a woman, while on the other side of the curtain, a woman is doing the same for a man. Thats crazy and there's no explanation for this.

Does anyone know any facilities in NYC or queens where they don't give male CNA's females?

OP, consider private duty options. If it's private duty through an agency, you might be able to request only male patients.

While I agree that being willing to only provide care for one gender is going to be problematic in most healthcare settings and may, in the end, be simply unworkable, I don't see any reason to be dismissive of anyone's religious beliefs. That's not a road I want to start down.

I'm not sure if you're suggesting that someone has been dismissive of someone's religious beliefs in this thread?

I was simply wondering if there actually is a religion that forbids men to care for women and women to care for men. It struck me as odd. I don't know of any, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. Hence the request for a clarification.

OP only mentionened non-life/death situations, which I took to mean (perhaps mistakenly) that it would be okay for a "opposite-sex" healthcare professional to help out in life or death situations, but not otherwise.

The problem I see is that there are many situations/conditions that a patient can experience, that while not immediately life-threatening, are still extremely uncomfortable, undignified and even painful. I'm trying to understand/find out if there is a religion that specifically dictates that a human being has to have this experience/suffering prolonged even when there is a medical professional present who is qualified to relieve the suffering, but due to their biological sex is forced to simply let the uncomfortable/undignified/painful situation continue until someone of the same sex as the patient, shows up/has time. I'm hoping that isn't the case but as I said, I don't know.

OP, consider private duty options. If it's private duty through an agency, you might be able to request only male patients.

That sounds like a good idea to me. I don't know if CNA's do home care in the U.S.? If they do and the agency/employer finds the idea of male-only clients acceptable, it's a good way to ensure that no patient suffers because a member of staff is unable to care for them.

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The OP specified it was in nonlife threatening areas; but if you look at the long view, ADLs contribute to long term health. Decubs and urosepsis ARE life threatening.

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First of all, talk to a religious authority. They may be able to offer guidance.

Have you considered working in home care? Many male clients, especially older ones, prefer male home health aides. You could also try corrections (they hire CNAs where I live), substance abuse rehab (many units are segregated by gender), boys' camps (if you don't mind kids), a group home for people with intellectual disabilities, or a religious facility.

Specializes in Geriatrics, Home Health.
I'm not sure if you're suggesting that someone has been dismissive of someone's religious beliefs in this thread?

I was simply wondering if there actually is a religion that forbids men to care for women and women to care for men. It struck me as odd. I don't know of any, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. Hence the request for a clarification.

Some very conservative branches of Islam (ex. Salafism), Judaism (ex. Ultra Orthodox and Hasidism), and Christianity don't allow unrelated males and females to mix at all. Ultra Orthodox and Hasidic Jewish men have made the news for refusing to sit next to women on planes. Some New York City public pools have been sued for holding single-sex swimming sessions.

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Im a male CNA and I've worked In a facility where males were not even allowed to have female residents. If there were females in the assignment they would swap them for a male with a female CNA.

I've recently joined another facility and I don't think it's the same.

For religious reasons I cannot do females.

I cannot understand how, in a non life/death situation, where a male and female CNA is available, a male CNA is changing/toileting, cleaning and dressing a woman, while on the other side of the curtain, a woman is doing the same for a man. Thats crazy and there's no explanation for this.

Does anyone know any facilities in NYC or queens where they don't give male CNA's females?

You do not have to understand this, you simply have to acknowledge that it occurs and not everyone has the same beliefs (religious or otherwise). Acknowledgement doesn't mean acceptance or agree with it, simply that it does indeed exist independent of your thoughts on the situation. I agree with the other members, corrections nursing might be the way to go as you can be guaranteed a single-gender environment of patients.

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The only places I can think of that might have a male only patient population are correctional facilities, sex offender programs with a segregated population, some drug and alcohol treatment centers and boys only private schools. I'm not sure what the employment prospects in those settings are for CNA's rather than nurses though.

You might be able to be accommodated at a Jewish hospital. Given the proscription between male and female interaction they are more likely to be able to accommodate than a secular or Christian facility.

Specializes in Geriatrics, Home Health.
Forgive my ignorance, but do religions that forbid people to help a human being in need actually exist? Is there really scripture text to that effect or is it someone's interpretation? It's just seems wrong to me. Helping someone should be something we could all agree on is a "good deed".

In parts of New York, Hasidic communities are served by Hatzolah, a volunteer religious EMS service. Until a few years ago, all of the volunteers were men. They were allowed to treat women, but women in the community wanted to be treated by women. An all-female volunteer EMS corps started a few years ago. They focus on obstetric and GYN emergencies.

Veterans Administration (VA) LTC residents are predominately men.

First of all, talk to a religious authority. They may be able to offer guidance.

Have you considered working in home care? Many male clients, especially older ones, prefer male home health aides. You could also try corrections (they hire CNAs where I live), substance abuse rehab (many units are segregated by gender), boys' camps (if you don't mind kids), a group home for people with intellectual disabilities, or a religious facility.

It would be very easy to tell a home health agency employer that you only will accept male patients. You can do this as a CNA, HHA, LPN, or RN and work an entire career taking care of only male patients.

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I don't know if the prison system hires CNAs. I worked home health and we had many clients that were males and wanted only make caregivers. There was plenty of work.

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