Venting about a new CNA...this is really, really long!

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    We have a new CNA that just started working night shift and she is going to drive me crazy. In the first place, she has been there for a total of five days and she is an expert on every resident in the facility. She is constantly talking about how this one usually does this or that one usually does that or how she is surprised that Mary slept through the night because she is usually up several times during the night or that Bill went to bed really early since he is always up past midnight. If we try to tell her that Mary was only up all night the first night she worked because her stomach was upset or that Bill was really only awake past midnight because he took an extra nap during the day she just laughs (well, cackles like a witch) and tells us that she already knows the residents very well and she know their habits, so we need to stop trying to make her look stupid. Whatever…

    Then she has decided that she is the BEST CNA on the face of the earth. She used to work in the dietary department at another LTC but they wouldn’t hire her as a CNA. She told me that they wouldn’t hire her because she knows that every nurse there takes a lot of shortcuts and doesn’t do their job properly, so they couldn’t hire her because she would show them up! The said the CNAs are mean and they treat every resident poorly and every other person in the dietary department is lazy and that the whole department will probably collapse now that she is gone. She is already complaining about other staff members here and talking about how she hates following a certain CNA because she knows she is going to find a mess and that the residents are going to be awake all night because they weren’t put to bed properly. She did find four residents with soiled briefs after following this CNA the first night she worked, but we has an outbreak of stomach-type flu that day and over half of the residents were pooping and puking. The CNA she is complaining about is actually quite good at what she does…I would be honored to have her care for me!

    After hearing and seeing all of this, I talked to her about professionalism and how she needs to be sure she statements she is making are accurate before openly criticizing other people and the job that they do. I also told her that she is out of line to complain about other professionals and say they are not doing their job, when she really has no idea what their job truly is. I told her that if she has that many concerns about the care given at her old facility, she needs to take it up with management at that facility instead of bringing it to ours. She just laughed and said I must have a lot of friends working there if I am so willing to defend them. Oh, boy…

    After slamming every CNA in the facility and telling us how she is going to be the best thing that ever happened there she started in on the local police department. She is angry that they won’t retrieve keys when people lock them in their cars, she doesn’t understand why they don’t have an emergency fund to pay for locksmiths for people who can’t afford them, she doesn’t know why they pulled her over for going 75 MPH on a 60 MPH highway…don’t they care that she was late for work? The police are incompetent, they are only there to pick on honest people, they make too big of a deal out of noise complaints, they are all sleeping with one another, they spend too much time drinking coffee, and they don’t do a good job of keeping the teenagers in line after school. When I told her that I am really good friends with most of our police officers and that I think they do a very good job and that they only pull you over, watch you, tell you to turn your music down, etc for a very good reason, she asked me how many of them I am sleeping with.

    And she hates the housing authority and the people at the state because they don’t distribute things like food stamps properly. She lives in a subsidized housing complex and is angry because there are ants in her apartment and there are wasps by her door. Right now there are wasps everywhere…you can’t go outside anywhere without seeing them. She told us that she had two wasps on her door so she went to the office in the apartment complex to get some spray for them and they wouldn’t give her any. They told her that they don’t have any in the office and that she just needs to go inside and if any wasps get in, the needs to kill them with a fly swatter. Apparently, she is allergic to wasps, so she called 911 on her cell phone, told them she was going to be stung by wasps, and then went inside her apartment (I knew I had seen her somewhere before…I was the first paramedic there when we responded). She is also losing some of her food stamps because she went from a job that paid $5.15 an hour to a job that pays $8.50 an hour…according to her, they are cutting her from $450 a month to $400 a month and they will cut her even more if they find out that she gave custody of her first two children to their fathers! I’m tempted to call them.

    The final straw for me, happened yesterday. I pretty much just rolled my eyes and blew off most of what she was doing until then. We have a resident that likes to stay up all night playing computer games. Since she is often awake until after 0300, she often skips breakfast and lunch and she is losing a lot of weight. I made a comment that I was going to ask the kitchen staff to leave her some snacks, so she could eat them while she is actually awake. She told me that she would be happy to talk to the dietary manger about it because they are very close friends. I told her, no, that I would take care of it. She told me about four more times that she could get it done much easier than I could because she has connections. I repeatedly told her that I was the charge nurse and that the request either needed to come from me, another nurse, or the DON. She just laughed. I talked to the cook that was on that day and that night, there were snacks left. This new CNA told me she had called the manager at home, so that she knew it would get done. I told her that I had already told her I would take care of it, that she was way out of line to call anyone at home, and that I did not appreciate her going around me, when I had already told her that it was my job not hers…I explained the chain of command and told her that if I hadn’t taken care of it like I said I would, that she needed to talk to the DON about it instead of going over everyone’s head and talking to the dietary manager. She told the CNA who was training her that I am jealous of her “can-do” attitude.

    And finally, while she was making rounds on one hall, I made rounds on the other hall. When she came back to the desk, I told her that the other hall was done and that everyone was dry. She said, “Oh, they probably are.” I said, “They are…I just changed them and yes, everyone is dry and repositioned.” She told me that she would have to go and check since it is her responsibility. I told her that she was not to go and wake everyone up again and that she was not to check my work. So…while I was in the restroom, she went and woke everyone up and repositioned them to the side that I had just moved them from.

    I am just about to strangle her…I have never worked with anyone who had gotten under my skin so much. I’m going to talk to the DON about it when she is in next week, but in the meantime, I am just going to grit my teeth and smile a lot.

    Thanks for listening!
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    While her attitude is annoying, not to mention bubbleworld-like, and calling people at home is unnecessary, what really caught my attention was turning people right back on the side that they were just laying on. First, i
    d start leaving a paper trail every time she does something out of line like that. Then the next time she pulls that stunt, i would ask her to please turn the people back off of the side they were laying on, before they develop skin breakdown. If she refuses, i'd write her up for refusal.
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    Sounds like this CNA has serious insecurity issues. If she keeps up with these crazy antics she won't last very long. At least I hope not for your sake. I would start documenting some of these situations with her for future reference.
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    CJ,

    I read your long post 'cause I know how good it feels to vent and have someone listen

    I feel your pain! This chick sound like the main character of a bad TV show! You get the GOLD STAR this week for patience.

    With her attitude/outlook though, I doubt she'll stick around more than a month. Remember to keep a nice long paper trail.
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    Wow......I would try to stay away from her as much as possible.......she sounds like a troublemaker from what you have described..........
    I wouldn't volunteer ANY information regarding personal stuff at all to her.....not even if you have kids etc...........The less she knows about your personal life the better.........because she seems like the type who would use that to her advantage and be broadcasting personal business to others.
    I personally take offense to the remarks about police that she made because my bf of 9 yrs is a police officer..........and he laughs at the coffee& donut jokes....he hates coffee& donuts and they do not sit in coffee shops all day , as the running joke goes........she may have been in run ins with the police many times herself so she is trying to justify why they are no good...............if she thinks she can do better than she can go for it........
    Ya she seems like a very angry person over life in general...........maybe she got *gasp* fired because they it had with her crap........have you thought about that??? I can pretty much bet I am right lol! People who complain like you say she did ...there is usually way more to the story than they are telling.........trust me!
    So I can see your frustration........try to grin & bare it ...and just walk away or change the subject when she starts..............and definetly have a chat with your boss................I am curious to see what will be done....Good luck! Just be careful around her as she seems to be dangerous with starting trouble........she sounds like one of those people who knows how to work the system....so she is also taking away from people who really do need help & can never get it or very little.............that's terrible in mpo. Well good luck!
    Last edit by KellieNurse06 on Sep 9, '06
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    LOL...I was going to tell her that I am friends with one of the police dispatchers and that according to her, none of the officers even drink coffee...there isn't even a coffee pot at the station...they do drink a lot of iced tea during the summer and cocoa during the winter.
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    Quote from cotjockey
    LOL...I was going to tell her that I am friends with one of the police dispatchers and that according to her, none of the officers even drink coffee...there isn't even a coffee pot at the station...they do drink a lot of iced tea during the summer and cocoa during the winter.
    Ya and for kicks I would throw in that you are related to one ...but don't say who..leave her wondering...lol
    You must have the patience of a saint...lol...please update on what goes on for laughs...lol....if she says you are sleeping with them .or asks, I'd say ya I am just to get a rise out of her.....lol
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    I wish more medical establishments would have In-Services about how negative attitudes and comments can affect your co-workers, the patients or residents, and the general mood of the place. I read somewhere that most people know that everybody is affected by their environment, but they don't think or don't seem to realize that they themselves happen to be part of the environment of every person they come in contact with.

    I worked a short time, about three months in a LTCF the summer before I started nursing school. I was amazed at all the backbiting of some of the CNAs. I suppose RNs and LPNs could be like that too, but I only heard it from the CNAs. Of course, some of them KNEW much more than the nurses, NEVER made a mistake, ALWAYS stayed with the schedule, and everybody else was to be considered LAZY! :icon_roll
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    WOW!! I actually stopped reading when you said she asked you how many in the police department you were sleeping with! HOW can you even speak to this person? This sounds like, I hate to be so blunt, but she is a sick twist and compulsive complainer. HOW does she treat the PATIENTS?!? She really needs help and she should be moved somewhere else!
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    Well, a couple of things here.

    1. Insubordination? She is doing things that you have directly informed her not to do, and are inappropriate.

    2. Resident harm? She repositioned everyone back to the side that you just turned them from? That could cause major breakdown problems. Not to mention residents rights? Treating them with dignitiy? Why would they need to be turned when you just turned them? And why was she playing games with you through them??

    JMO of course, bless you for dealing with this.

    ~ear


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