a nurse attorney stated during a presentation that Associate Degree Nurses should be awarded a Bachelor's degree b/c of all the work involved in becoming an RN.
This was a EUREKA!!! moment for me.
have often thought of how much work it was to become an RN. all the assessments, writing, and care plans
, etc. -- EVERY WEEK! and one to two full days each week in clinical.
i myself started out in an ADN program -- and it was a lot of work!!!
and what other professionals work THIS hard and then look forward to working weekends, holidays, summers, and rotating shifts.
and when was the last time you heard that a chemical engineer, teacher or a lawyer was sued for malpractice?
so . . . why can't the 2 year student be awarded a Bachelor's degree? (and by the way, who really completes a "2 year program" in 2 years?)
i've done some research into course requirements (and "clinical") for chemical engineers, teachers and lawyers. the total number of hours required are less than those required for nurses.
a close relative graduated law school a year ago. law school is 3 years beyond a bachelor's. the first 2 years are intense. the 3rd year is considered a "waste" by many. Some law schools are toying with the idea of doing away with that 3rd year. others are offering a doctorate degree (J.D) at the completion of the 3 years.
my point really is -- why shouldn't the degree be COMMENSURATE
with the amount of WORK (again consider all the time, written assignments, care plans, clinicals, etc.) that it takes to beome an RN??
a 4 year program could award a Master's or a doctorate. WHY, given the amount of work involved in becoming an RN, should we restrict ourselves to the traditional notion of 2 years equals an ADN, and 4 years equals a BSN???
Jan 22, '07
Quote from psalm_55
my point really is -- why shouldn't the degree be COMMENSURATE with the amount of WORK (again consider all the time, written assignments, care plans, clinicals, etc.) that it takes to beome an RN??
Actually, this is where some good old-fashioned American snobbery comes in. The more physical labor and the less intellect a profession demands, the more it will be considered a trade and not a profession. Nursing has evolved into being much more intellectually demanding than it used to be.
Nurses really had to fight to get the profession recognized as such, and we're just coming out of the Dark Ages beyond the doctor's handmaiden image.
Many of my patients don't even realize that nurses have to go to college nowadays. People hear the word "nurse" and automatically think "hiney-wiper," not "college grad" equipped with a brain.
I don't think we as a profession will get anywhere until the public's perception of nurses changes to reflect what it takes to become and remain (don't forget those internships, orientations, specialized certifications, licensure qualifications, and CEUs!) a nurse.
Last edit by UM Review RN on Jan 22, '07
Jan 22, '07
Quote from txspadequeen921
LOL..... you have just created another multi page thread of ADN -vs- BSN...
We moderators are not going to let that happen. There are a few open threads on ADN vs. BSN and those are the only ones allowed to go on and on. This topic is a little different, and we do allow for discussions that ask specific questions. If it goes on page after page in a similar vein to existing threads, we'll close this one. If it stays on topic, no problem if it goes page after page.
Last edit by Tweety on Jan 22, '07