Terminated and need advice

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Hi Friends,

I need some advice. I am very frustrated, confused and feel like a scapegoat. I am a new nurse, graduated in last yr. w/ LPN cert. I was recently term'd from a LTC facility for not having a Dr's order for insulin transcribed/copied over from the previous months orders. Another nurse had anonymously DC'd the previous months routine insulin orders due to a change in the PM insulin amount (nothing to do with her HS insulin) and she failed to copy over the bedtime insulin order. There are several other places that the bedtime insulin is recorded in the treatment book and these were not DC'd. The res. did not have a DC order in the computer or in her file hardcopy. I continued to give res. the HS insulin without the order written. Other nurses also gave the HS insulin without having it handwritten in the TAR. I feel like the TAR pages had been tampered with. There were quite a few changes to it. Are you not suppose to have some level of trust with your fellow nurses. There's too little communication. Med. changes happen and you don't always hear about it. Stuff just gets "thrown over the fence" for you to pick up the pieces. I would appreciate any advice from veteran nurses. I worked my ass off to get thru school & NCLEX. I feel like I was scapegoated/setup.

Thanks.:eek:

I agree that its better that your gone....Keep praying and looking you'll find something Soon....and if you Move to Maryland we have lots of jobs HERE!!!! >HUGS>

Specializes in Gerontology, Med surg, Home Health.

You gave insulin without an order? If you didn't see an order on the MAR or TAR why did you give it? you can't do meds from memory.

Specializes in none.

It's not you that screwed up. It's the Looking Glass Land at which you worked. Say good bye to the Red Queen and start applying to other jobs. If they give you any flack just say,"My lawyer looking in to my termination and the state is looking in to my complaint concerning your confusing policy." That should scare the knic...I'm Sorry, the paint off them.

I agree that its better that your gone....Keep praying and looking you'll find something Soon....and if you Move to Maryland we have lots of jobs HERE!!!! >HUGS>

Thank you for the kind words.! I wish I could come out there to check it out. There is no nursing shortage here in ks. Thx again!

You gave insulin without an order? If you didn't see an order on the MAR or TAR why did you give it? you can't do meds from memory.
True you can't pass meds. from memory. It's one of those judgement calls, that with no report of DC of HS insulin from 1st shift, no physical record of DC of HS insulin in res's file or in their computer record. What do you do.? I probably should've called the Dr. or my ADON for clarification.
Specializes in Emergency Department.
True you can't pass meds. from memory. It's one of those judgement calls, that with no report of DC of HS insulin from 1st shift, no physical record of DC of HS insulin in res's file or in their computer record. What do you do.? I probably should've called the Dr. or my ADON for clarification.

Bingo. While you have no report or physical order to DC the insulin, you also have no record of an order to administer the medication either. Because there's no order authorizing the administration, you administered a medication without an order to do so... While I'm relatively certain that the insulin order would have been continued, a phone call should have been made.

Specializes in Cardiac, PCU, Surg/Onc, LTC, Peds.

So you just made up your own sliding scale for the HS insulin dose? If you did do that, that's kinda scary administering meds without an order and I could understand why you were let go. Sorry it happened but please learn from your mistake.

So you just made up your own sliding scale for the HS insulin dose? If you did do that, that's kinda scary administering meds without an order and I could understand why you were let go. Sorry it happened but please learn from your mistake.

No, I am sure that he saw the order on the prior month's TAR without a d/c anywhere and extrapolated that it was missed at change over.

Specializes in LTC/Rehab.
So you just made up your own sliding scale for the HS insulin dose? If you did do that, that's kinda scary administering meds without an order and I could understand why you were let go. Sorry it happened but please learn from your mistake.

It probably wasn't a sliding scale insulin. I'm guessing it was Lantus or 70/30

Computers make life easier. E-mars rock! That said, I'm not sure quite what the sitch is, from your post but I'm so sorry u had such a bad experience. If you were the night nurse, or the person responsible for "turnover" of that residents meds for the month, you could be held responsible for not having the order on the mar. Even though everyone knew this pt recieved insulin, and her dose, it takes an MD order to give it. Otherwise, we are prescribing meds. An agency or float nurse wouldn't know to give insulin...so...but I really don't know if this is the scenerio. I myself was once fired on the spot for giving a tylenol without an order. (I gave it first because the pt. had a headache, then called for the order) The DON saw me do it, asked me, and I was not chagrined enough by her disapproval. She said she could not trust my judgement and out I went.

For the record, I left that job off the resume and got orders before giving medication from that time on. God bless and use the lesson to learn from not beat yourself about the head and neck with.

Bloodsugar checks ac and hs, and coverage given only at ac. Have you ever seen how some orders are written? All nurses can read, all nurses are crazy busy, and all nurses are human.

Specializes in ED/ICU/TELEMETRY/LTC.
Bloodsugar checks ac and hs, and coverage given only at ac. Have you ever seen how some orders are written? All nurses can read, all nurses are crazy busy, and all nurses are human.

Yes, we have many orders like this and it does cause great confusion. It came about due to the late Lantus administration I think and they continue to monitor the blood sugars at hs just to monitor the blood sugar management.

It's so confusing for new nurses. I think we should remind new nurses to take particular note of these orders (yes I know they can read but so many are overwhelmed). Also wouldn't be a bad idea to note it on the MAR if you have time.

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