Stupid things your school does/did - page 4

Re: What age were you when you went to nursing school? Quote: Originally Posted by GraceNotes (I'll try this post again.) I am so apprehensive about nursing school! I am 51 and will graduate... Read More

  1. by   KaroSnowQueen
    Waaaay back in the day (1983), we had to strip down to our underpants and let our class partner give us a bed bath. Old fashioned bed baths with bath blankets, and only side (or part of a side exposed) at a time. This was done in a closed room with curtains drawn around the bed, with the instructor and you and the classmate only.
    Actually nobody much cared, once the instructors said it was segregated by genders, the guys did guys, the girls did girls. It was kind of fun, if your classmate had to leave the bedside to get something, and they left the siderail down, the teacher had you wrap in the blanket and lay on the floor. I was seven months pregnant, so the teacher really acted up when the classmate came back to the bedside.
    The whole point was to teach you how to give a bed bath with dignity to your patient, and we all made sure we did it, as we didn't want to be lying there exposed, and made sure our partners did it right also. We bathed everything but, as the instructor said, "the in-between".
  2. by   CritterLover
    where i went to school, we had to do physical assessements on each other, including breast exams.

    they, too, used the "feeling what it is like to be a patient" line on us, as though none of us had ever had a physical exam before. (well, by a peer, no, most of us hadn't)

    we were separated by gender (well actually, there were only two men in our class...), and we didn't have to be examined in front of the whole class -- just our lab partener and the instructor.

    there was quite a bit of backlash to this on our first day, though nobody quit over it. the clinical instructors for this class quickly quieted the dissent by telling us that in the np programs, the students had to do pelvic/rectal exams on each other.

    sorry, i just don't want to get to know my classmates that well.
  3. by   Batman24
    Quote from critterlover
    where i went to school, we had to do physical assessements on each other, including breast exams.

    they, too, used the "feeling what it is like to be a patient" line on us, as though none of us had ever had a physical exam before. (well, by a peer, no, most of us hadn't)

    we were separated by gender (well actually, there were only two men in our class...), and we didn't have to be examined in front of the whole class -- just our lab partener and the instructor.

    there was quite a bit of backlash to this on our first day, though nobody quit over it. the clinical instructors for this class quickly quieted the dissent by telling us that in the np programs, the students had to do pelvic/rectal exams on each other.

    sorry, i just don't want to get to know my classmates that well.

    just curious...did the instructor bare her breasts as well to be examined?! did anyone flat out refuse?! did anyone refuse to be weighed or any part of any examine?! i am just curious on those points as well. i would have refused. actually i would have been a good model for cpr as i probably would have fainted and hit my head on the way down. lol
  4. by   Batman24
    Thanks to all of you who helped me to calm down a bit. This thread was a great idea as it opened my eyes to things I had never even thought about. I am going to check things out tomorrow. I feel a little uncomfortable even asking, but better to be safe than sorry.

    I have heard that one of the local CNA programs (for one school CNA certification is required) only uses dummies and then moves onto real life residents. That school also uses dummies for IV, etc.
  5. by   CritterLover
    Quote from batman24
    just curious...did the instructor bare her breasts as well to be examined?! did anyone flat out refuse?! did anyone refuse to be weighed or any part of any examine?! i am just curious on those points as well. i would have refused. actually i would have been a good model for cpr as i probably would have fainted and hit my head on the way down. lol

    no, i don't remember anyone quitting/refusing.

    and no, no naked instructors for us.

    however, we were told that the np program had been a female short, and the clinical instructor for that program had to be the "patient" for one of the male np students.
  6. by   nurse4theplanet
    Quote from critterlover
    the clinical instructors for this class quickly quieted the dissent by telling us that in the np programs, the students had to do pelvic/rectal exams on each other.

    sorry, i just don't want to get to know my classmates that well.
    lol! me either.

    does this happen in np schools now? i've never heard anyone speak about it. it seems very unusual.
  7. by   not now
    Quote from KaroSnowQueen
    The whole point was to teach you how to give a bed bath with dignity to your patient, and we all made sure we did it, as we didn't want to be lying there exposed, and made sure our partners did it right also. We bathed everything but, as the instructor said, "the in-between".
    Ha! We had to ask our "patient" if they wanted to do their own peri care and if they didn't know what that meant then we were allowed to say "Wash between your legs" but not actually do it.

    I've been an LVN for almost two years but my instructor was older than dirt. We had to get faux bed baths wearing a t-shirt and boxers/shorts. The guys wore shorts over their boxers. It was all private and secluded from anyone else seeing it. No one really cared. Not the girl who was seven months pregnant at the time or the girl who had just had bypass surgery and had tons of extra flesh, she just wore sweat pants and the instructor didn't mind (although she's also the same person who showed me that she could wrap the excess skin from her upper arm all the way around while we were bored in ER ).

    We gave and received one shot in lab. I had two guys in front of me and my partner. One stuck it in the others arm and just let go! The needle was just hanging there in the guys arm and the other one just stared until the instructor told him what to do. The one with the needle in his arm just started cracking up.

    I took an IV cert class and had to start three IV's and perform three blood draws on actual people after practicing on the fake arm. My boyfriend actually came over and let me start two IV's on him myself! The RN program I'm in won't let us do anything on people other than patients. We pay for lab supplies in a bag every semester and they take out the IV's so we won't get tempted and try them out on our family.
  8. by   prowlingMA
    Yep. In Medical Assisting program we did EKG's on each other, so chests were exposed. And practiced stapping on fetal monitors, so tummies were exposed. The four guy usually paired up, but not all the time.
  9. by   Draken
    I dont think you should be allowed to pass the nursing program without having these done to you.

    I am really suprised that in some of your programs you didnt have to do this.

    Ok like this my four year old needed a immunization but i dont remember atm. The nurse asked do you want me to give it to her in her arm or in her leg i said in the arm because the leg is insainly painful. and she replied wow i didnt know that.(what is she doing being a nurse giving injections)

    Most nurses dont know that if you stimulate the injection site it reduces the pain level to a point where it dont really hurt at all. This is what gives people fears crappy nurses who never had to endure what they put their patients through.

    If you feel uncomfortable getting in your underwear infront of future nurses you have no place expecting patients to do the same.


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  10. by   Soup Turtle
    Quote from Draken

    If you feel uncomfortable getting in your underwear infront of future nurses you have no place expecting patients to do the same.

    I disagree! I think there is a big difference between a nurse/patient relationship and the relationship between classmates. I will do these things if I have to, but I hope not to have to.
  11. by   MountainMan
    Quote from Batman24
    I have heard that one of the local CNA programs only uses dummies and then moves onto real life residents. That school also uses dummies for IV, etc.
    maybe the dummies we should use are the program directors from the schools. I'm sure they would be MOST understanding.
  12. by   MountainMan
    Quote from Draken
    I dont think you should be allowed to pass the nursing program without having these done to you.

    I am really suprised that in some of your programs you didnt have to do this.

    Ok like this my four year old needed a immunization but i dont remember atm. The nurse asked do you want me to give it to her in her arm or in her leg i said in the arm because the leg is insainly painful. and she replied wow i didnt know that.(what is she doing being a nurse giving injections)

    Most nurses dont know that if you stimulate the injection site it reduces the pain level to a point where it dont really hurt at all. This is what gives people fears crappy nurses who never had to endure what they put their patients through.

    If you feel uncomfortable getting in your underwear infront of future nurses you have no place expecting patients to do the same
    Being required or expected to submit to a state of humility in a class setting does nothing to adjust one into the state of being a sensitive or knowlegable nurse. As others have pointed out, who among us has not had a physical exam already?
    Knowing how to give a less painfull injection is not learned by unwanted display of ones-self before others.
    I still don't get the point!
  13. by   Batman24
    Quote from MountainMan
    maybe the dummies we should use are the program directors from the schools. I'm sure they would be MOST understanding.
    LOL!! I am sure using the words "digital rectal exam" might change their minds regarding policy.

    Thankfully it seems the exception versus the rule in regards to students being in their underwear or topless in front of one another. It seems nursing schools were actually more invasive years ago.

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