Religion and work-- is there a median? - page 5

hi kids... For those that dont know me, my name is Barbara. I am a Wiccan priestess, a moderator on these boards, and a LPN. Wicca is a very gentle peaceloving religion...if anyone needs more... Read More

  1. by   nurs4kids
    Originally posted by prn nurse
    I think there is a time and a place for everything.

    I don't think a small place on a shelf at work for any kind of icons/amulets is appropriate.

    "a little piece of wood" could be left in your pocket if it gives you a sense of comfort.

    America thrives/functions on the majority of people being "Mainstream."

    It makes people anxious to be exposed to something that is not mainstream.

    A little piece of wood.....how do others interpret that?

    Is it voodoo? witchcraft? an object that is being used in a ritual?

    It isn't "mainstream." It sends a message..... no one but you knows the message.

    If you need a constant inspirational support/reassurance at work, I would wear a necklace under my uniform, or have something in my pocket. I would not build an alter at work, no matter how small.

    I think your co-worker may have meant you were crazy to create your alter at your place of employment.

    I think you are "asking for it." It is challenging authority. If you want to stand for your rights....for the "all or nothing"....ACLU & lawyers....and all that........ go for it!!!

    This is America !! It's your right !!

    Myself, I need to work. I don't make waves.

    If I want to light black candles, put hexes on people, get drunk, have sex with the priest, worship at midnight under a full moon wearing black gauze, or any other stuff that is even slightly unmainstream, I'll do it, but not at work or in the presence of co-workers.

    It depends on how much you need/want your job.

    As someone said on another BB, we all "choose our battles."

    I'd let this one go and die a quiet death & never mention it at work....a reputation for being an alternative "religious nut" would take a long time to live down .....even an undeserved one.
    <picking myself up off the floor>
    I couldn't agree more..well said!
  2. by   Cubby
    Originally posted by 2MagnoliaTrees
    Praying for all of you. God Bless you and yours.
    And the Goddess too.....
  3. by   mario_ragucci
    Personally, I'd rather see a nice symbol of human power, like a hammer and sickle, or a red star with 5 points (five continents). All this hocus-pokus, pie in the sky, theistic stuff leads to discention. Always will.
    All these vain attempts to bolster your personal slants about the nature of goodnes in people is convuluting :-) We have a place and a task as health care professionals, which can never include trying to sneak in some personal/mystic slant to a health care environment.
    To me, it's in poor taste to place symbols of a man being murdered on a piece of wood and reflect on that as a source of inspiration. I'm sorry.
  4. by   micro
    and it is only mo.........

    1) I will echo myself and repeat again to Barbara. You go girl. Something of value to you should be allowed if other items of belief systems and personal preference are allowed. She was not trying to impose her beliefs or ideas on anyone else, as often is done with other belief systems/mainstream.

    2):stone The underlying tone, that if "I" am different, that "I" should just fade into the "woodwork" ........is...........all I can say is "bunk"...............Just because my approach to life or outlook is different from possibly "mainstream", does not make me less valid as a person or a nurse.............My approach may be just what is needed..................

    3):zzzzz I so agree that symbols are very important. Symbols have meaning to a group, country, culture, and to an individual. I have symbols that are of great import to me. The hammer and sickle, I agree is a powerful symbol of humanity and the star that denotes the five continents of our world's population. THE EARTH AS VIEWED FROM SPACE.........THERE ARE NO DIVISIONS SEEN THEN.

    4) I also agree with the issue that in our health care and nursing care of our patients' that our belief systems do not have merit. The belief systems and needs of my patients do have merit and I do consider them in my care. As a health care worker, our place is to care with all of our knowledge for the patient and as warranted for those in the patient's circle. It is indeed enough of a powerful task. Very powerfully stated above and I would agree in toto'.

    5) and last, this is just my humble opinion as a nurse and a person...............take it as such...............


    bye now,

    micro
  5. by   kittyw
    Christianity was not mainstream 2000 years ago.
  6. by   rebelwaclause
    ....Sigh....I bet, Buddha, Jesus, Yahweh, Twigs and all get a kick outta us. Like the "Pepsi" thread, I can imagine them saying:

    "Baby...It's about your heart an our relationship. Otherwise, it ain't that deep"
  7. by   donmurray
    Cultural difference here. I have no idea what most of my colleagues' religious preferences are, they are personal to themselves. If any of us were to suggest decorating the nurses station with religious symbols of whatever flavour, they would be thought to be a little odd.
  8. by   mario_ragucci
    Originally posted by micro
    humanity and the star that denotes the five continents of our world's population. THE EARTH AS VIEWED FROM SPACE.........THERE ARE NO DIVISIONS SEEN THEN.
    Hey Micro - are you insinuating that I am a spaceman? Lol. It's lonely out in space, on such a timeless flight :-)
  9. by   micro


    :zzzzz

    Mario, I insinuate nothing, but the truth in my humble opinion.


    :stone

    DM, I think sometimes that our openness here is not always a +. Cultural differences, I agree.


    just micro all
    Last edit by micro on Oct 6, '02
  10. by   nurs4kids
    Originally posted by mario_ragucci
    Personally, I'd rather see a nice symbol of human power, like a hammer and sickle, or a red star with 5 points (five continents). All this hocus-pokus, pie in the sky, theistic stuff leads to discention. Always will.
    All these vain attempts to bolster your personal slants about the nature of goodnes in people is convuluting :-) We have a place and a task as health care professionals, which can never include trying to sneak in some personal/mystic slant to a health care environment.
    To me, it's in poor taste to place symbols of a man being murdered on a piece of wood and reflect on that as a source of inspiration. I'm sorry.
    well said, Mario! ..now, pass me that moon pie!
  11. by   mario_ragucci
    I don't understand the context of this. A moonpie is a individually wrapped marshmellow cake treat. I don't eat moonpies. What does this mean?
  12. by   ohbet
    Im a christian. Practicing my religion does not involve erecting shrines,or any conspicuous display,but it involves my being active by loving my neighbor,ie the patients at the hospital where I work.
    If your religion,Wiccan,has the same ethical obligation,then forget about the shrine, get active and be of service,which Im sure you are.
  13. by   Lausana
    Originally posted by ohbet
    Im a christian. Practicing my religion does not involve erecting shrines,or any conspicuous display,but it involves my being active by loving my neighbor,ie the patients at the hospital where I work.
    If your religion,Wiccan,has the same ethical obligation,then forget about the shrine, get active and be of service,which Im sure you are.
    My thoughts exactly! Barbara to answer the original question, unfortunately I don't think they'll be a happy medium. Personally, I'd have no problem with what you've described if it is in you personal space at work, or a trinket or necklace...but sometimes it just isn't worth the fight. I think your passion for your beliefs will show even when you don't display it on shelf...they may not know the specifics of "what you are", but they'll know. (They meaning patients and coworkers) That's what really matters, that you're representing yourself honestly! (hope that all made sense!)

    Interesting stuff you guys! :kiss

    (Sounds like you've got one PC nurses station Barb :chuckle Hey as long as everyone's happy now!!)

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