Random vents - page 3

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*Disclaimer: This is a vent...don't be vain* Students: please don't post your homework questions without even doing some critical thinking on your own!!! It's ok to discuss your answer for understanding, but when you want... Read More


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    Quote from Pepper The Cat
    The way I see it, I am not there to teach you - that is your instructors job. She gets paid very well - in fact, she probably gets paid more than me - to teach you. I am happy to give you opportunities to give you learning opportunities, but it is not my job to 'teach" you.

    Actually, I get paid less than 2/3 the hourly rate I make working at the hospital, when I'm teaching. In my hospital, precepting and teaching are part of the clinical ladder. Thank you for the chance to do things, but showing my student how is a major help to both the student (and the nurse you may be working with in the future). Having only 8 hours (minus report and lunch, and debriefing) and 8 students, comes out to less than an hour a day to spend with each student. And when those opportunities come all at once, there is only one of me.

    And none of my students better show up with a "tude"! You are there to learn by doing, so do it! There will be no hiding in the break room to get your paperwork done, because "I finished with my patient"- there are 20 or so more out there that need things done!
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    Quote from Diane-RN in Michigan
    I am NOT making excuses for 'not-so-nice-to-students' RN preceptors. However...

    It is more work to have a student than not. We still have to check their work, meds, etc, and have to assess our patients, etc. Although students feel they are 'helping', in reality, they oftentimes are not. Students work UNDER our RN license which makes us ultimately accountable for EVERYTHING they do. So yes, it is more work to precept.

    Just something to think about.

    Best,
    Diane
    We have not done our clinicals in the hospital yet, only the LTC and the only things that goes on there for us to have opportunities really is Blood Sugars, and Foley's which the CNA's can't do and watch and maybe take part in wound care depending on the type of wound. We don't do med pass yet until second semester only stand and watch. The nice nurses have told us how helpful it was for us to go take care of all the blood sugars for her so I do believe we have been helpful in that aspect. I can see where students can get more in the way. I make it a point to always thank the nurses for allowing us to watch and learn (even the rude ones) and apologize for any inconvienance it is for us to be there. In fact I made cards for them for Monday because it is our last clinical.

    Bottom line though IMO and I don't care who it is, their is no excuse to be rude and nasty to others that have been nothing but nice to you and if you do happen to have an "off" day and are rude and nasty to someone that did nothing wrong to you, you should aknowledge it and apologize. It's just how I was taught and how I teach my children.
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    Quote from ~Mi Vida Loca~
    Bottom line though IMO and I don't care who it is, their is no excuse to be rude and nasty to others that have been nothing but nice to you and if you do happen to have an "off" day and are rude and nasty to someone that did nothing wrong to you, you should aknowledge it and apologize. It's just how I was taught and how I teach my children.
    Mi,

    If you re-read my post, you will see that the first line reads "I am not making excuses for not-so-nice nurses.." I'm Just explaining WHY you may have experienced what you did.

    Best of luck to you in your career.

    Diane

    PS And I'm not one of those not-so-nice nurses...
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    Quote from Diane-RN in Michigan
    Mi,

    If you re-read my post, you will see that the first line reads "I am not making excuses for not-so-nice nurses.." I'm Just explaining WHY you may have experienced what you did.

    Best of luck to you in your career.

    Diane

    PS And I'm not one of those not-so-nice nurses...

    I saw that part I was just going off on my own after responding to your post. Sorry about that.
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    My list of vents:

    Stop asking us for your NCLEX scores.

    Stop asking us if you will ever get a job.

    Tait
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    Quote from ~Mi Vida Loca~
    I saw that part I was just going off on my own after responding to your post. Sorry about that.
    No biggie, Mi. I always enjoy reading your posts

    -Diane
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    Quote from Diane-RN in Michigan
    No biggie, Mi. I always enjoy reading your posts

    -Diane
    Wow I don't hear that often LOL, Thank you
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    Quote from JBudd
    There will be no hiding in the break room to get your paperwork done, because "I finished with my patient"- there are 20 or so more out there that need things done!
    Yea, I have heard some students do hide (so do some instructors). But FYI, my instructor for this semester would give us paperwork on the fly that had to be filled out in the middle of med passes/care. Seriously! I think she thought she was being inventive?! But it just really threw a wrench in our ability to work with the RNs. Some of the RNs saw this happening and understood that we had no control, others did not.

    Also, the off the floor in a hurry thing, is often not the student's idea. It's the instructor wanting you all off, to shorten liability time (for them) but also, to force students to get things done in a timely manner. Remember, although some of us would just love to keep on with all you RNs, we are there to do only what our instructors want us to do. This is unfortunate as I don't learn from my college really, I learn when at clinical when I can get out of under the grip of my instructor and just "run wild" with my RN (just kidding) but more true than not.
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    Quote from ~Mi Vida Loca~
    I am a student and so far have been having a great experience so I don't have a lot to vent about yet, one thing I have seen though-

    To some of the nurses (at least half at the LTC facility we are doing clinicals at) please stop being so b***chy to the students and treating them like crap, especially when we are going out of our way to be polite and learn. It's obvious you have a great big chip on your shoulder and believe me we try our best to stay out of your way but when our CI forces us to go shadow you it wouldn't kill you to be Semi Polite and not treat us with such disgust. It would also be great if you let us learn other opportunities not ONLY CNA tasks, especially when later on you will proceed to complain about how we don't know how to do this or that and Nurses will need to know that but you kept us from doing those exact things. As for the rest of the nurses, the charge nurses and the NP thank you so much for your encouragement and guidance and patience.

    All my other vents would be about fellow students lol
    I understand your grief about not getting to do "nursing" tasks, but as a nursing instructor who has taught a few clinicals, the nurses at the facility generally know what the students can and cannot do without the instructor supervising. Yes, usually the instructor has to be the one to supervise to assure correct technique is being used, and because of liability. I was once a student myself, so I realize how frustrating it is. But as for the rude attitude, I can't excuse or explain that one! It's really uncalled for.
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    Quote from JBudd
    Actually, I get paid less than 2/3 the hourly rate I make working at the hospital, when I'm teaching.
    Amen, that's why I keep my facility job as well, and won't take full time instructor at this time!
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