Plan B - page 6

Anyone else think Plan B will get GROSSLY out of hand? I think alot of 18 years old will be running to walmart every sunday nite! Also, cant it hurt a woman' s body if she takes Plan b too many... Read More

  1. by   HM2VikingRN
    Quote from Jolie

    What does concern me, and what I have been unable to find an answer to is this: Will men over the age of 18 be allowed to purchase Plan B? If so, I am concerned about the potential for older men to abuse young girls and then give them Plan B to prevent possible pregnancy.

    One of the pediatricians I used to work with refused to prescribe any contraceptives for women under the age of 18 unless they brought their mothers with them to the appointment. At first I thought this was terribly short-sighted and prevented young girls from acting responsibly to prevent pregnancy. He then told me that he adopted this policy when he learned that one of his young patients was being abused by a male teacher who "put her up to" going on OCs so that he didn't have to fear that a pregnancy would shed light on their "relationship".
    I would guess that men will be able to purchase Plan B OTC. After all we can buy Tampons.:spin: Seriously, I think that if a pharmacist or other provider has suspicions that a patient is being abused mandated reporter laws would come into play and that these concerns should be reported to authorities. (Check and credit card payments would ID the purchaser.) My 15 year experience with offering treatment to sexual offenders tells me that most of them would not be organized enough to use Plan B as a means of hiding their illegal activities.
    Was the incident reported to law enforcement?
  2. by   Natkat
    I heard on the news this morning that, yes, males over the age of 18 can purchase plan B.
  3. by   OB_or_NICU_hopeful
    Quote from cardiacRN2006
    Thank You for bringing this up! Lots and lots of things can inhibit the fertilized egg from implanting...... Sheesh! When are people jsut going to mind their own business over other people's bodies?????
    I guess about the same time YOU do.
  4. by   cardiacRN2006
    Quote from OB_or_NICU_hopeful
    I guess about the same time YOU do.
    Uh....good one.

    I think the last time I heard someone say that I was in 4th grade.
  5. by   ortess1971
    Quote from cardiacRN2006
    Thank You for bringing this up! Lots and lots of things can inhibit the fertilized egg from implanting. If that means it is an abortion then their are a lot of women aborting blasts around here. So women of childbearing age, if's it's been 2 weeks since your period, don't take ibuprofen as it can prevent ovualation, and if it's been almost a month since your last period don't take ibuprofen as it may impair implantation.
    It's been said that at least 30% of all pregnancies end without the woman even knowing as they just got washed out with the next period. Should we live in a bubble to prevent this from happening? Sheesh! When are people jsut going to mind their own business over other people's bodies?????
    Excellent post with some valid points made..I think it's funny how once arguments are made based on science and not just emotion, the flaming commences. Like I said before, an unplanned pregnancy can happen to anyone, even if you're using condoms. I think that sometimes, it's less scary to think that it won't ever happen to you, only the "bad" girls.
  6. by   casi
    I'm curious about the idea that PlanB induces abortion through not allowing a fertalized egg to implant. From what I read it seems as though PlanB first tries to prevent fertalization, but when that doesn't happen has the mechanism to prevent implantation. Isn't this the same thing as oral contraceptives?

    When fertalization occurs both prevent implantation. With PlanB there is just a higher chance that fertalization has occurred.
    Last edit by casi on Aug 26, '06
  7. by   NHavenRN
    Quote from OB_or_NICU_hopeful
    I guess about the same time YOU do.
    Umm....what exactly do you mean by that? I didn't heard anything in cardiacRN's statement that demanded anything of you and your body.

    To add to the discussion regarding women using Plan B as "birth control" as being judged as irresponsible: there is also a significant population of women who aren't able to get effective BC (that is, more effective than condoms - e.g., the pill) because of potential health contraindications - I've seen tons of women denied an OCP rx because of, say, high BP on a given day, or because they're over 35 and smoke a few cigarettes a day; however, most of these women can safely take EC. So to second what others have said - you never know another woman's life story or the circumstances that have brought her to the point of needing EC, even if it does appear to be "too frequent" by some peoples' standards.
  8. by   OB_or_NICU_hopeful
    I think it's funny how once arguments are made based on science and not just emotion, the flaming commences.
    Umm....what exactly do you mean by that? I didn't heard anything in cardiacRN's statement that demanded anything of you and your body.
    I'm not "flaming" anyone. It seems to me that we ALL have our opinions on what other women should do/not do with their bodies. And we are ALL entitled to them.
  9. by   Gods child
    I'm personally against Plan B, because I'm one of those weirdoes that doesn't believe in premarital sex or birth control for myself. But it would not bother me if other people used it as they see fit.
  10. by   ortess1971
    Yes, we are all entitled to our opinions. Flaming to me is when someone wings a comment at someone else that doesn't present anything useful or productive. It's meant to tick them off or provoke. The comment that you made, unfortunately, falls into that category. But hey, no hard feelings..All of us here have had posts that kind of came from an emotional place and not a logical one.
  11. by   NHavenRN
    Quote from OB_or_NICU_hopeful
    I'm not "flaming" anyone. It seems to me that we ALL have our opinions on what other women should do/not do with their bodies. And we are ALL entitled to them.
    I have to disagree with that statement - not to get personal, but because I see it as fundamental to the difference between those pro- and those anti-Plan B (and/or other medical issues...). I specifically don't feel its right for anyone to tell - or legislate - what anyone else can do with their body and their lives, considering the issue under debate has been approved by the FDA as safe and effective from a medical perspective. And I see that view as very distinct from the statement above.

    Again, I'm not trying to flame anyone either, I just wanted to clarify what for me is the foundation for how I view most of these issues.
  12. by   charebec65
    Quote from hospitalstaph
    Oh your comments are not insulting! I have many reservations about this. I am Catholic and I do feel that abortion is not acceptable, but I also struggle with seeing children suffer everyday with parents that are not prepared to raise them and don't want them. I have my moral beliefs, but reality crosses with it everytime! I truly wish that we could see mothers that give their babies up for adoption as wonderful and caring people, instead of tagged as irrespossible and cold.

    This is a much bigger issue than "should plan B be available?"

    T


    I quoted this reply because of the adoption comment ..... I don't see mothers who give up their children as irresponsible and cold. I see them as caring individuals who made the most difficult decisions of their lives. I am an adoptee. I for one am glad my BM did not abort me. Were she alive today, I would thank her for having the courage to give me to a family that desparately wanted children but couldn't. I realize that all adoptions don't work out but I have wonderful parents and a terrific brother (also adopted). I know that "T"'s intent was not to accuse everyone of feeling that way of adopted mothers....I was just relaying my feelings from personal experience....
  13. by   charebec65
    Quote from ortess1971
    ... but no birth control method is 100%. but i have picking up in many of these posts a definite idea or viewpoint that unplanned pregnancies don't happen to women that are careful or responsible. this is so not true. you can be on the pill but still get pregnant."

    amen to this one...... my only pregnancy that i was not on some form of bc resulted in fraternal twins. 2 preg. with iud (miscarried both), 1 with diaphragm with double the spermacide (miscarried) and the pill which i faithfully took at 8am....i managed to carry that one.....


    ........."misguided idea that plan b will lead to promiscuity and std's. this is a scare tactic by the religious right and how sad that many people get sucked in by it...."

    the religious right love to use such scare tactics.....

    "also, if someone is so irresponsible as to use plan b as a primary method of bc, would you really want this person giving birth to and raising a child?
    amen to that one too...... i'm not for abortion though i know it has its place (at age 19 or so, i did not realize iud's were like early abortions). we just really need to accept responsibility for our actions. as strang as this may sound..... our gene pool does seem to need some work in some areas....
    Last edit by charebec65 on Aug 26, '06

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