No Nursing Shortage At The Present Time - page 25

by TheCommuter 69,777 Views | 340 Comments Senior Moderator

I am assured that some of you are reading this and saying to yourselves, "Duh! This topic is old hat. We already know there's a glut of nurses in many parts of the country, so why are you writing about this?" Here is my reason... Read More


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    On a lighter note about math I was this and thought of you TheCommuter. Maybe all math needs to be explained like this. I actually managed to get half of these formulas by looking at it.

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    No matter which belief one holds about the CEO and their compensation as being the cause of the over all healthcare system's fiscal fiasco- we all have to admit: it's just bad management. Isn't that what the CEO goof balls are getting paid big bucks for? LOL They sure aren't doing too good a job for their big paycheck- with all these hospitals closing because of funding issues. I certainly wouldn't want them in my check book!!
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    Quote from kcmylorn
    No matter which belief one holds about the CEO and their compensation as being the cause of the over all healthcare system's fiscal fiasco- we all have to admit: it's just bad management. Isn't that what the CEO goof balls are getting paid big bucks for? LOL They sure aren't doing too good a job for their big paycheck- with all these hospitals closing because of funding issues. I certainly wouldn't want them in my check book!!
    CEOs do not function in a vacuum. They are appointed and held accountable to a board of directors and if a for profit corporation, shareholders. So if you want to go after anyone it should be the board who is charged with overseeing CEOs.

    Again you cannot lay all the funding issues many hospitals are going through at the feet of CEOs.

    Hospitals are not like a factory or private business. In many instances they must provide care for anyone who seeks it of them and worry about payment (if it is made at all) later. Unfunded and under funded care is killing hosptials all over this country, including many in NYC. Providing care regardless of finances or insurance was one of the big things that killed Saint Vinny's. The sisters simply refused to abandon their mission of caring for the poor. It was an open secret one could have major surgery at SV's then cry poor mouth and the bill would be greatly reduced or in cases wiped clean. That is a great thing for some patients, but someone some where has to pay for that care. Sadly hospitals all over the country are finding their hands tied.
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    I like to speak as a RN that is NOT unemployed by CHOICE? My last position was taken from me back in 2010 because I desired learning opportunities and when that promise was not kept...I desired to go to another department and in turn was told there were no more hours on that floor....And no I was not nasty or unprofessional in anyway...that NM never saw me because she had me on nights (this is another story). I was liked by my peers and patients.

    There were a lot of hours available (MIU) bottom line I dealt with a nurse manager that was not truthful and very dishonest. It had been a year and a half after that and I still was not able to find a position. It had gotten to the point that she told me she would give me a reference and when it came to it she refused (for no reason). I had to go to employee relations for her to stop refusing to give me a reference because it had cost me a position in that same hospital.

    What I would like to say in my case it was a Nurse Manager who has prevented me from obtaining a position. They can say do some real unprofessional and unwarranted things to try to hurt you from advancing in your career and there should be an agency that would police this kind of thing...oh I guess I would need to go back to NYC and have a union backing me. SMH...
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    Quote from MochaRN424
    I like to speak as a RN that is NOT unemployed by CHOICE? My last position was taken from me back in 2010 because I desired learning opportunities and when that promise was not kept...I desired to go to another department and in turn was told there were no more hours on that floor....And no I was not nasty or unprofessional in anyway...that NM never saw me because she had me on nights (this is another story). I was liked by my peers and patients.

    There were a lot of hours available (MIU) bottom line I dealt with a nurse manager that was not truthful and very dishonest. It had been a year and a half after that and I still was not able to find a position. It had gotten to the point that she told me she would give me a reference and when it came to it she refused (for no reason). I had to go to employee relations for her to stop refusing to give me a reference because it had cost me a position in that same hospital.

    What I would like to say in my case it was a Nurse Manager who has prevented me from obtaining a position. They can say do some real unprofessional and unwarranted things to try to hurt you from advancing in your career and there should be an agency that would police this kind of thing...oh I guess I would need to go back to NYC and have a union backing me. SMH...
    Amen sister! Amazing isn't it? I'm sorry you have gone through this as well....
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    TheCommuter,

    I found out a few months ago that I have ADHD (inattentive type) and a learning disability. No one suspected I was having trouble because of my 3.8 GPA. After being an ADN for 20 years, I am finally going back for my BSN. Now I have the tools to help me complete my coursework after four short-lived attempts. I suspected for years something was wrong but was too proud to seek help. Consider looking into testing to make sure something you are not even aware of is holding you back.
    Last edit by mom24tzus on Aug 3, '12 : Reason: omission
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    Quote from MochaRN424
    I like to speak as a RN that is NOT unemployed by CHOICE? My last position was taken from me back in 2010 because I desired learning opportunities and when that promise was not kept...I desired to go to another department and in turn was told there were no more hours on that floor....And no I was not nasty or unprofessional in anyway...that NM never saw me because she had me on nights (this is another story). I was liked by my peers and patients.

    There were a lot of hours available (MIU) bottom line I dealt with a nurse manager that was not truthful and very dishonest. It had been a year and a half after that and I still was not able to find a position. It had gotten to the point that she told me she would give me a reference and when it came to it she refused (for no reason). I had to go to employee relations for her to stop refusing to give me a reference because it had cost me a position in that same hospital.

    What I would like to say in my case it was a Nurse Manager who has prevented me from obtaining a position. They can say do some real unprofessional and unwarranted things to try to hurt you from advancing in your career and there should be an agency that would police this kind of thing...oh I guess I would need to go back to NYC and have a union backing me. SMH...
    Do not feel like the lone ranger. Us CNAs catch it, too. I think it is all in Medical unless you are top end like a MD, OT, PT, CRNA, or NP. Then, you just can't really go further. As we speak, I am fixing to have to quit a job at a facility because it conflicts with COTA school, and they will not work around schedule. In fact, I have been given pretty snide attitudes about me getting better in general. Basically, they do not care, you are floor coverage - RN, LPN, or CNA.
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    Quote from ctmed
    I have been given pretty snide attitudes about me getting better in general.
    Have you heard of the 'crabs in a barrel' phenomenon, also known as the crab mentality?

    Live crabs can be left in open barrels because, as one crab climbs toward the top to escape, the other crabs will grab on and pull it back. In summary, all of the crabs end up with the same fate.

    The 'crabs in a barrel' story is a metaphor for human behavior because, as one person attempts to better themselves, strive for self-improvement, or leave his/her current situation, sometimes the others around him/her (a.k.a. the crabs) latch on and try to hold the person back.

    Click on the link below if you wish to read more about the phenomenon. It is more common than anyone has ever imagined.
    http://allnurses.com/general-nursing...el-758617.html
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    Learn how to analyze nursing job markets so you know where to apply and how to greatly increase your odds of landing a position.
    Last edit by TheCommuter on Aug 4, '12 : Reason: advertising
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    One-third of Baby Boomers have no (zero) retirement funds saved.
    THAT is incredibly irresponsible.


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