new nurse/seasoned nurse

  1. 15 Ive read many posts regarding here from newer nurses complaining of being treated less than kindly from seasoned nurses. I am a new nurse, working with a seasoned nurse. She comes off as angry and unfriendly as she is constantly yelling and clearly frustrated. However, after carefully listening to her views, I have fully come to understand her frustration and know thats it NOT personal. She is disgusted with the nursing profession in general. She has been a nurse for 36 years and is very experienced and knowledgeable. As she watches over me during my orientation, she sees that preceptor sleeping for 2 hours while Im on my own. Literally... This is every night. Each nite I have a difference preceptor, and each nite they sleep, stay in the nursing station and let me pretty much go on my own. She told me the other night, this is terrible and she is "embarassed." She seems to actually feel sorry for me, because she was not trained in this lackadaisal type mentality. My preceptors are newer nurses, with 2-3 yrs of experience maximum. This profession that she takes so much pride in, is crumbling, and shes sick of it. So to the newer nurses, sometimes the older nurses arent as mean as they may appear, they may simply be disgusted at the changes they have seen. And want new nurses to respect our position as much as they do... so my simple advice to new nurse, dont take things personally if all doesnt seem well intially, keep your eyes open, listen carefully and learn from them.. even if their is a little grumbling!
  2. Visit  Isitpossible profile page

    About Isitpossible

    From 'Philadelphia'; Joined Feb '08; Posts: 586; Likes: 451.

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  3. Visit  CherylRNBSN profile page
    6
    Are you serious? Who the &@#( has time to SLEEP?

    You must be working in some podunck hospital in the middle of no-where, where nothing is happening.

    Seriously, who has time to sleep?
    Hoozdo, poppycat, jnkgal, and 3 others like this.
  4. Visit  SionainnRN profile page
    5
    I've had coworkers sleep...in their lunch breaks. They only take the time allowed for meals. Granted this was in the ICU at night so it wasn't too hard. On any other floor I don't know how this is possible, especially if you are orienting someone. I'd be ****** too if I saw that. And you bet your sweet butt I'd be emailing the manager.
    poppycat, Violach, tokmom, and 2 others like this.
  5. Visit  eatmysoxRN profile page
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    They sleep? Please let me come work there. I admit on slow nights my coworkers and I discussed a plan to use a room and rotate nap shifts. If we actually did it though... Yeah, hello hobo status.

    ~ No One Can Make You Feel Inferior Without Your Consent -Eleanor Roosevelt ~
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  6. Visit  RNperdiem profile page
    1
    She sounds like a nurse I worked with during my first year. She came across as grumpy and tired all the time. Over the course of the first year I learned that she was a single parent who worked two jobs and her oldest son had just been sent to prison.
    purrrfectionist likes this.
  7. Visit  CheesePotato profile page
    17
    As a seasoned nurse who can come across as short or cranky at times, I assure you, it is very seldom personal. (Though there are vindictive and nasty people in this world who are merely....well...vindictive and nasty.)

    It can be difficult to juggle life, two sickly/dying parents, family demands, call/work demands and drama (read: political bs) and then pull out the happy face for a new grad in the middle of a chaotic day. I try to leave it all at the other side of the double doors. Mercy I try. But I am flawed and I have failed.

    Sometimes you are tired to the core of your soul, vulnerable, and just...human.

    So to that end, I say thank you. Thank you. Thank you for seeing the good in this nurse who is frustrated and wanting better for you. Thank you for reading between the lines to view who she is and what fuels her words. Thank you for allowing her to be human.

    I encourage you to remember this moment when dealing with the demented, the detoxing, the drug seeking, the grieving.

    I do not, however, encourage you to take abuse. Ever. You have the right to a safe work environment.

    As such, you should not be forced to work while other nurses sleep. That is completely unacceptable and something you need to report. In this case it is not only about making noise to fix a bad situation, but also because if you say nothing but remain aware and management decides it's time to take action, you run the risk of being involved as guilty by association and failure to act.

    Oh, and then there's that whole patient safety thingy too.

    I have a feeling you will go far, OP.

    Kindest regards,

    ~~CP~~

    P.S.

    I cannot be held accountable for spelling and grammar errors. I have OD'ed on pancakes laden in natural syrup and corned beef hash and I regret nothing. Blood sugar sold seperately.
    Last edit by CheesePotato on Jan 27, '13 : Reason: mmmmm....natural maple syrup
    canoehead, KelRN215, WinterSoldier, and 14 others like this.
  8. Visit  LadyFree28 profile page
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    Quote from CheesePotato
    As a seasoned nurse who can come across as short or cranky at times, I assure you, it is very seldom personal. (Though there are vindictive and nasty people in this world who are merely....well...vindictive and nasty.)

    It can be difficult to juggle life, two sickly/dying parents, family demands, call/work demands and drama (read: political bs) and then pull out the happy face for a new grad in the middle of a chaotic day. I try to leave it all at the other side of the double doors. Mercy I try. But I am flawed and I have failed.

    Sometimes you are tired to the core of your soul, vulnerable, and just...human.

    So to that end, I say thank you. Thank you. Thank you for seeing the good in this nurse who is frustrated and wanting better for you. Thank you for reading between the lines to view who she is and what fuels her words. Thank you for allowing her to be human.

    I encourage you to remember this moment when dealing with the demented, the detoxing, the drug seeking, the grieving.

    I do not, however, encourage you to take abuse. Ever. You have the right to a safe work environment.

    As such, you should not be forced to work while other nurses sleep. That is completely unacceptable and something you need to report. In this case it is not only about making noise to fix a bad situation, but also because if you say nothing but remain aware and management decides it's time to take action, you run the risk of being involved as guilty by association and failure to act.

    Oh, and then there's that whole patient safety thingy too.

    I have a feeling you will go far, OP.

    Kindest regards,

    ~~CP~~

    P.S.

    I cannot be held accountable for spelling and grammar errors. I have OD'ed on pancakes laden in natural syrup and corned beef hash and I regret nothing. Blood sugar sold seperately.
    ^^^Well said as always CheesePotato!!!
  9. Visit  OCNRN63 profile page
    0
    Thank so much OP!
  10. Visit  mariebailey profile page
    2
    That needs to be reported. No one will benefit from sleeping preceptors, particularly the patients.
    HouTx and samadams8 like this.
  11. Visit  Nrsasrus profile page
    6
    Good post! I personally love crotchety old nurses because I know their training was more strict and that they are going to teach me something if I prove to them I really want to learn. They are experienced and they have a legacy of skills and information to hand down. It's the stuff they don't teach in school!
    imintrouble, poppycat, GadgetRN71, and 3 others like this.
  12. Visit  Nrsasrus profile page
    1
    They aren't all crotchety, but I think you know what I mean
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  13. Visit  samadams8 profile page
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    Quote from Isitpossible
    Ive read many posts regarding here from newer nurses complaining of being treated less than kindly from seasoned nurses. I am a new nurse, working with a seasoned nurse. She comes off as angry and unfriendly as she is constantly yelling and clearly frustrated. However, after carefully listening to her views, I have fully come to understand her frustration and know thats it NOT personal. She is disgusted with the nursing profession in general. She has been a nurse for 36 years and is very experienced and knowledgeable. As she watches over me during my orientation, she sees that preceptor sleeping for 2 hours while Im on my own. Literally... This is every night. Each nite I have a difference preceptor, and each nite they sleep, stay in the nursing station and let me pretty much go on my own. She told me the other night, this is terrible and she is "embarassed." She seems to actually feel sorry for me, because she was not trained in this lackadaisal type mentality. My preceptors are newer nurses, with 2-3 yrs of experience maximum. This profession that she takes so much pride in, is crumbling, and shes sick of it. So to the newer nurses, sometimes the older nurses arent as mean as they may appear, they may simply be disgusted at the changes they have seen. And want new nurses to respect our position as much as they do... so my simple advice to new nurse, dont take things personally if all doesnt seem well intially, keep your eyes open, listen carefully and learn from them.. even if their is a little grumbling!

    All I can say is WOW!
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  14. Visit  samadams8 profile page
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    Quote from mariebailey
    That needs to be reported. No one will benefit from sleeping preceptors, particularly the patients.

    Absolutely. Instead of getting an attitude, she should address the "preceptors," and/or write-up and report them. I am not a tattletale, but that's just ridiculous. It IS down right embarrassing. Sleeping while on direct duty is grounds for firing in any hospital or agency I have ever worked. I'm not talking about someone being friend, and literally shaking themselves as they started to dose writing their notes. I am talking about people carelessly sleeping upon duty--as if they are planning to do so.

    This is a bigger issue when someone is being precepted or oriented. Someone with inexperience can easily make a mistake that may not be corrected quickly enough. I have no idea what hospital you work in, but where I live, I can't think of one that would put up with that kind of thing.
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