Need Your Opinion: Am I Finished in Med/Surg or Not? - page 2

That is the question still uppermost in my mind today as I chew over the 'conversation' I had Friday with one of the assistant department managers regarding "concerns" that have evidently arisen over... Read More

  1. by   jnette
    Dang, Marla... I do hate this for you !

    It would appear that nurses' time would be better spent doing other things. It would appear that there would be some sort of " hospital assitive personell" to carry out these types of functions. I guess from what Tweety and others have said, this is not the case. But it does boggle the mind. What kind of "profession" is this, anyway? So little value placed on nurses and their health and wellbeing.

    I find this truly disturbing.

    Yes, I agree with others here as well... there are options out there for you. Sad htat you may have to leave what you love, but you MUST consider your own health here and look out for #one, as no one else will.
  2. by   danu3
    This is off topic... but why do we still have these huge beds that nurses or whomever has to push? Why can't it be remote control or something?

    Maybe I'll pop over to the Nursing Enterprener (sp) forum and suggest this...


    -Dan
  3. by   medsurgnurse
    Americans with Disabilties. Find it on the net. If they fire you, they'll get more than bargained for. Nurses are expected to workhorses and we are not. Most of us with back problems got that way from nursing.
  4. by   Mimi2RN
    Instead of playing Musical Beds, couldn't you move the patient in a wheelchair, and then housekeeping could clean the bed as well as the room?
    That might be easier on you. Maybe it wouldn't work with ortho patients, but it would with most others.

    Wouldn't you love to see a Manager pushing a bed around, it's amazing how you can be expected to do something like that, when they wouldn't dream of helping out.

    It's not worth doing your back in, take care of yourself!
  5. by   Tweety
    Quote from danu3
    This is off topic... but why do we still have these huge beds that nurses or whomever has to push? Why can't it be remote control or something?

    Maybe I'll pop over to the Nursing Enterprener (sp) forum and suggest this...


    -Dan

    Dan! Motorized beds that move like a go cart or something, wouldn't that be often.

    But to answer your questions as to why we don't have them........money. They would be too expensive. Best to break nurses backs, cheaper in the long run.
  6. by   kmchugh
    Marla

    I can see management's point, in a fashion. After all, if you were no longer able to "pull your weight" in patient loads, and couldn't take care of your patients, then they would have a valid concern. On the other hand, you weren't hired to be a freaking furniture mover!! Given that management is willing to tolerate other nurses who can do less than you, any you still take a full patient load and give your patients good care, I'd say that you still have a future in med-surg, if that's what you want. Where moving the beds is concerned, I'd think management could be accomodating. But why?

    Don't misunderstand my question. I'm really just concerned about you. Why are you so intent on doing yourself permanent bodily harm? You've already told us that you have had a bad back since the age of 14, and your husband can't earn enough to adequately support your family. Why are you risking serious injury to your back? I have to be honest, I've never understood what I call nursing machismo. We all keep doing it in spite of the pain, and we ridicule those who c/o injuries suffered on the job. This has always baffled me. We are so good at caring for patients, but we suck when it comes to caring for ourselves, or our co-workers.

    I have a news flash for you. We aren't in the military, and we certainly ain't in the NFL. There is no reason, none, to play through the pain. My concern for you is that someday, you will retire. The only question then is what that retirement will be like. Will you be active, and finding other things in life that hold your interest? Or, like so many nurses we both have seen, will you spend your retirement sitting in your home, in pain from the years of accumulated abuse you've heaped onto your back in the name of "proving yourself."

    The short version is there are a million ways to be a nurse. You and I have conversed before, and I'm convinced that you are not a dumb person. Find one of those ways that you love that isn't quite as taxing on your back. Regardless of what anyone else says, it's time you cared for yourself. Ain't nobody else going to do it for you.

    Kevin

    Edited to add: By the way, if I didn't make it clear, you "proved yourself" long ago. Marla, you know I love you, so quit trying to be 21 again.
    Last edit by kmchugh on Mar 14, '05
  7. by   SmilingBluEyes
    (((((((((((((marla)))))))))))))))

    I can't even add to what already has been said here. But you have my support, whatever you decide. I think, maybe, med-surg is too much, too. That's ok. You are a wealth of knowledge and a valuable member of the nursing profession. I hate to see you walk away from it all......try to find a bit less taxing area, if you can. You have "proven" yourself, like Kev said.
  8. by   stidget99
    My first thought on reading this thread is why are you moving those beds? Are you moving them by yourself?? Also, to have ANYONE at all (i.e. CNA, housekeeping, etc) move them alone is unreasonable (at least in my opinion). We certainly wouldn't try to move even a 150# person by ourselves up in bed. We would get some help. Do the same for those beds if they do have to be moved. We often move pts from one unit to another and we move them in their beds frequently but we NEVER allow anyone to move someone by themselves. It would be unreasonable. Whatever happened to nurses watching each other's backside?
  9. by   snowfreeze
    We use maintenenace to move empty beds.
  10. by   FranEMTnurse
    Marla,

    Have you given any thought to getting a job as a telephone nurse for a health insurance company? You could work from home doing that. Or even working in a doctor's office.
    There are multiple choices in the field of nursing these days, and I'm sure you would qualify to do lots of them.
    Maybe just being a wound care nurse or something like that.

    Anything but Med/Surg. I didn't like it when I was in school, I don't like it being a patient, and that area would be one of my last choices. They work you as though you're heavy equipment used to to do that stuff.
    It all comes down to money, doesn't it. Management doesn't want to spend; no, in fact, since computers are a common commodity now, they have decided to put even more work on nurses. How naieve I was years ago when the computers first came out. I actually believed the line, "Computers were invented to ease the workload of employees Yeah, RIGHT! Instead, management uses them as an excuse to pile more work on to the help, and usually don't give one hoot about what happens to the nurse.:angryfire I'm beginning to get hot. I better quit.

    Do take care of yourself, dear friend. Nobody else will, and in fact when it comes to organizations you have worked for having to dish out some medical help for you, they either ignore you altogether, or they just don't care what happens to you, they don't know you. You are not a person, you're just another number.:angryfire Aargh! I must go before I blow a gasket.
  11. by   VivaLasViejas
    Quote from kmchugh
    Marla

    I can see management's point, in a fashion. After all, if you were no longer able to "pull your weight" in patient loads, and couldn't take care of your patients, then they would have a valid concern. On the other hand, you weren't hired to be a freaking furniture mover!! Given that management is willing to tolerate other nurses who can do less than you, any you still take a full patient load and give your patients good care, I'd say that you still have a future in med-surg, if that's what you want. Where moving the beds is concerned, I'd think management could be accomodating. But why?

    Don't misunderstand my question. I'm really just concerned about you. Why are you so intent on doing yourself permanent bodily harm? You've already told us that you have had a bad back since the age of 14, and your husband can't earn enough to adequately support your family. Why are you risking serious injury to your back? I have to be honest, I've never understood what I call nursing machismo. We all keep doing it in spite of the pain, and we ridicule those who c/o injuries suffered on the job. This has always baffled me. We are so good at caring for patients, but we suck when it comes to caring for ourselves, or our co-workers.

    I have a news flash for you. We aren't in the military, and we certainly ain't in the NFL. There is no reason, none, to play through the pain. My concern for you is that someday, you will retire. The only question then is what that retirement will be like. Will you be active, and finding other things in life that hold your interest? Or, like so many nurses we both have seen, will you spend your retirement sitting in your home, in pain from the years of accumulated abuse you've heaped onto your back in the name of "proving yourself."

    The short version is there are a million ways to be a nurse. You and I have conversed before, and I'm convinced that you are not a dumb person. Find one of those ways that you love that isn't quite as taxing on your back. Regardless of what anyone else says, it's time you cared for yourself. Ain't nobody else going to do it for you.

    Kevin

    Edited to add: By the way, if I didn't make it clear, you "proved yourself" long ago. Marla, you know I love you, so quit trying to be 21 again.
    OK, you got me on that one! :chuckle Thank you, Kevin, for your care and concern...........you're absolutely right, I've got to take care of me, there's nobody else to do it.

    I'm not sure exactly how this is all going to work, but I promise you all, I'll try to do a better job of caring for myself.......all of this stuff that's happened to me in the past year has been leading up to some very necessary and major life changes, and the proverbial handwriting is on the wall: I know if I don't start seeing to my own health and my physical and emotional needs soon, I'll either die early, or wish I had. :stone

    Thanks again, to everyone.
  12. by   meownsmile
    Quote from danu3
    This is off topic... but why do we still have these huge beds that nurses or whomever has to push? Why can't it be remote control or something?

    Maybe I'll pop over to the Nursing Enterprener (sp) forum and suggest this...


    -Dan
    Oh how kewl,, you need to keep this one and make your million for yourself. Find yourself a good patent lawyer, then take it to Hill-Rom.. Dang your good. :Melody:

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