Male Nurses on the rise and they make more money - page 4
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Male Nurses Becoming More Commonplace, Census Bureau Reports The nursing profession remains overwhelmingly female, but the representation of men has increased as the demand for nurses has grown over the last several decades,... Read More
- 0Feb 27, '13 by kloneQuote from CaliBoy760However, as others have pointed out, male nurses may be more likely to be hired into certain specialties than their female counterparts.I make nearly 30% more than other nurses where I work. But I believe that is due to my specialty and not the fact that I am male.
- 0Feb 27, '13 by hearts895, RN BSNQuote from PMFB-RN*** I agree with you. I was the only male in my nursing school. When we went to clinicals there was one available spot for a student in ICU (small hospital) and I was given it. I know that several others had asked for it. I did have the grades and had a lot of experience as an army medic, paramedic, and LPN so that may be why I got the ICU slot but it didn't appear that way to the female students. There was a moderate amount of complaining and a small amount of true bitterness demonstrated.
That ICU clinical played a roll in my getting into a 9 month Critical Care Nurse Residency program as a new grad. That job got me several very lucrative travel positions, and later a really fun job on a mobil intensive care ambulance (ground and air). That job got me the very high paying and fun full time Rapid Response gig I have now.
Must be cause of my sex. That is a little disapointing as I though I had gotten here on my merits.
You certainly deserved your spot in the ICU given your good grades and extensive critical care experience. Please know I mean no disrespect to you, or any other male RNs, who have achieved well deserved high paying positions through hard work and smarts. I'm just relating my personal experience and thoughts. I'm sure the vast majority of male RNs make more because they have set themselves up to do so through smart career moves & being hard workers. It just so happens, that in my (as yet fairly limited) experience, there tends to be a preference for hiring men into critical care roles, hence they have a stronger shot of moving into higher paying nursing specialities.
- 4Feb 27, '13 by FlorenceNtheMachineJust an observation, I see a fair amount of "woman hatin'" around AN. Most of the time, it's the tired ole "all women are catty. Women are horrible to work around. They eat their young. They'll let you drown."
Now if one of the nurses who talk so poorly about women are in a situation where they can hire two equally qualified candidates, I'm going to surmise they'll pick the male. They'll pick the male for promotions, and so on and so on.
I really would not want to be paid any less than a male just because of gender. I also like working with women, and don't lump half of the population as witches just because they have vaginas.
- 2Feb 27, '13 by twopurpleskittlesBlah blah blah. Someone just wanted to whack the beehive to watch the reaction. The men typically can work more OT and have less home life obligations like kids. I love it when stats are skewed like that. I refuse to buy into it. I know that RNs in my neck of the woods ALL start at the same rate of pay. I love my fellow male RNs. I went through nursing school with a great one. They normally have a GREAT sense of humor. I really appreciate that! Rock on dudes!
- 3Feb 27, '13 by nurseladybug12My first degree is in psychology, and I had a professor Dr. Mary Crawford at UConn who actually discovered a statistical way back in the 1970s to measure wage differences between men and women, taking into account different variables such as years of experience and education between participants. Her research showed that men make more than women across the board in every occupation, even with less education and less experience. There is something called a "token male" who is a male in a predominately female profession, such as nursing, and they will more likely than not will be paid more than a female, be more well-liked, and be promoted more quickly than their female counterpart. Off subject- Taller men are also paid more than shorter men... So yes, men getting paid more than women is real, employers are sexist, and it is not fair. Obama did sign a bill called the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act in 2009 for equal pay for women...dont know how that is working out yet.
- 6Feb 27, '13 by kloneI find it bizarre and mind-boggling that people are actually denying that men make more than women. That is universal, across all occupations. I'm not surprised (disheartened, but not surprised) that it occurs in nursing as well.
- 3Feb 27, '13 by dah dohI have always made more money than my hubby. We finished nursing school at the same time too so we have the same number of years of experience. I think this year he made slightly more than me but it was by working 2 jobs!
- 6Feb 27, '13 by woohI worked with my ex-husband. We started same day. Same general experience beforehand. Did the same job. He made 75 cents per hour more than I did. Back when I was young and stupid and happy to have a job, I didn't say anything.
Worked for a while with my current husband. (Where we met.) I had more responsibility. Worked there longer. More experience before that job. But he talked football with the boss and made more than a dollar per hour more than I did. At the same time he was getting a raise and another guy that did basically the same job I did was getting a raise (when he already made more than me), they didn't have money to give me a raise. (And they were shocked when I quit not long after that!)
And let's be clear. I've NEVER taken maternity leave. I've NEVER had childcare responsibilities. So there was no, "But women care more about their kids than their career" excuses here. (Which is BS anyway.)
Of course every man HERE has only received the pay and promotions he rightfully deserved. I wouldn't want anyone here to think that maybe, just maybe, they might have profited from sexism. Just like a promotion that I got when I was one of the few white people there not already in management (who was ALL white) was SOLELY because of how hard I work and how much experience I had. No way that I profited from latent racism there. I just worked really hard!
We all want to think that we get where we get based solely on our merits. But to claim there's no problem when women still only make 77 cents for every dollar a man makes? We can come up with all the excuses we want, claim "it's just faulty statistics," but there's STILL a problem. Not shocking that men don't see it. It is sad that women don't see it.