Male Nurses. - page 10
SO as a Male looking to become a Nurse one day... Is what they say true? Can a Male Nurse really find better jobs with better pay much easier than most Women Nurses? Are the amount of Men in... Read More
Jun 6, '03mark, we're talking professionalism now...not male v. female...
I would hope any nurse would do the same (as you)
Jun 6, '03hogan4736 I totally agree with you! we need to act and be professional at all times in my opinion
Jun 6, '03I've been doing this since 1975 and rarely use a chaperone when I am alone with a female patient ; The main exception is if I need to put in a catherer, but I would need help regardless.
Even when I was practising as a midwife it was not deemed necessary by the ladies. There is no such thing as privacy in a delivery suite anyway. It has been requested of me that I relinquish a ladies care to a female co worker on many occassions and I am fine with this; if the lady would be uncomfortable with me caring for them then I cannot deliver the care they need.
Jun 6, '03Originally posted by mark_LD_RN
I also work the ER and obviously we have different opinions or as you put ( maybe I am just stupid enough to do it) but I am not stupid and can prove that also
I do not think it is a privacy issue ,it is perfectly ok for males to provide care for females just as it is perfectly ok for females to provide care for males. that is NOT a violation of privacy.do not know where you got that definition but you need to go look it up one more time
thank goodness the patients are more open minded than a lot of nurses
this gender issue is blown way out of proportion, and most of the time it is by the nurses or docs.not the patients. I find the older nurses tend to think the way you have mentioned. but thankfully a lot of that is changing and people and nurses alike are starting to realize nurses are professionals and that gender is not the issue
Jun 6, '03Originally posted by mattsmom81
Mark, I can't help but suspect through your numerous and self serving posts on this subject that this is a pet issue (problem) of YOURs.
so who deemed you judge of the posts to decide if my posts are self serving oh and thanks for psychoanalizing me over a bullentin board, I am surre it is real accurate. you have found my problem
sorry if the post seems a little ugly but get a little tired of the insinuations,name calling and things that people put out on here. it seems some people are not allowed to discuss the feeling or beliefs if they tend to difer from theirs.
I have frequent posts on many topics and the frequency of posts does not mean its a problem just that I am trying to clarify a point as some may realize it is hard to get across your exact meaning or feelings on a bullentin boardLast edit by mark_LD_RN on Jun 6, '03
Jun 6, '03One of my Aunts who is in her early 50's & also has Downs Syndrome...has been hospitalized several times this year. Guess who her FAVORITE nurse was each time she was on this med-surg unit?! It was a male nurse! He reminder her of Santa Claus! He had a super personality & a wonderful bed side manner..and of course a white beard! Anyways, he was such a caring person. My family just loved him. He also took the TIME to talk to her...and to listen closely to her. I am so glad that she had him as her nurse...because some of the nurses there..well...maybe they don't have the patience for someone who is "different" than they are...and they just appeared a bit gruff & brisk with her...whereas this gentleman RN was always smiling & making fun talk around her...and that is what she needed....a soothing friendly face...her hospital stay was so much nicer with the care of this kind man! She was less afraid of injections & other procedures due to the compassion of this nurse. Yes...she did ask for the guy nurse!! Why...because she remembered who treated her so well!
Jun 7, '03Originally posted by teeituptom
I agree with you MattsMom81
as I recall we teed it up a time or 2 before . funny how some people can't agree to disagree
I for one am starting to like the bickering that goes on its a nice change of pace
Jun 7, '03I am afraid I am going to have to agree with Mark here. especialy disagree with you two teeit up tom and mattsmom. I does not appear he has a problem or a pet peeve as you 2 seem to want to imply. Nor is He "stupid" as you put it tom for doing what he does. he is the kindest most caring giving nurse and person you could ever want to meet. If you ever did I am quite sure you would change your minds.
people should try to walk in his shoes and others like him and see things from the other persons view before judging anyone. take a look and see where he is coming from with an open mind and maybe you would understand.
gender has no place in nursing we are professionals after all aren't we? gender should not be used as criteria to hire,fire ,promote or be considered for pay rates.
the funny thing is I have seen the same thing as Mark, it is not the patients that have a problem with it, it is the nurses. and that really makes no sense except that maybe nurses in general are insecure or something. I do not know but I would have expected nurses to see males as professionals and not judge them biasly as they do. I would expect that from the patients who may not understand we are professionals.
and maybe one day the ones that doubt ,heckle and judge him and others like him will take the time to get to know him a little and then see what you think. he has an interesting story and am sure he would share it freely with anyone wanting to know or anyone who would care enough to listen.
hope everyone has a lovely day. tata
Jun 7, '03STOP IT RIGHT NOW
The topic under discussion is whether Registered Nurses of the Male gender get a better or worse ride through their careers; not MattsMom81 or Marks personality faults
Lets get it back on track guys:imbar
Jun 7, '03Hello Micheal. There are no major differences between men and women in nursing. When you are moving at 100 mph to get your work done efficiently and quickly you don't care who you are working with. However, you do care that this person is as dedicated to there job as you are to yours.
-Can a Male Nurse really find better jobs with better pay much easier than most Women Nurses?
Are the amount of Men in Nursing rising significantly, by chance?
I dont know. Does it matter?
Micheal, I know that you are interested in all the options that are available to you, but you will find that you are not going to recieve anytype of benefits because of your sex in your career life. The benefits you recieve will come through hard work and determination. Good luck my friend.
Jun 8, '03Here's my one perceived difference...
Male nurse being direct - perceived as rude
Female nurse being direct - perceived as caring and motherly
Case in point:
I work in a walk in clinic...
We triage/intake every patient coming in...
A mom brings her 2 1/2 year old daughter for a fever x 2 days...
I ask, "what are you giving her for the fever?"
Mom says: "I try Tylenol, but she won't drink it"
I say, "She refuses?"
she says, "Yes"
I say (eye to eye, calmly), "You have to take charge, hold her down if needed. You know what's good for her, she doesn't"
I tell her about Tylenol suppositories.
she says (while tears are coming down), "I know what I'm supposed to do, but she won't take the meds. I've heard of suppositories, but..."
Mom starts to really cry...
I then calmly explain why a fever over 105 can be dangerous, and my son didn't ever want his medicine but...And what will you do if the doc prescribes an antibiotic...Will you let her refuse then?
Anyway, doc gives her Tylenol suppositories to give to her kiddo, RXs her Amoxil (otitis), and sends her home.
I'm made out to be the "rude nurse" (her words to the MALE doc)...
I'm just being direct, setting limits, and trying to genuinely teach the right and SAFE things to do!
There's your difference...
The female nurse likely gets a hug and a thanks from the patient's mom...Can I help it if she has issues w/ men? (She told me BOTH dads of her 2 kids aren't around and "never were")Last edit by hogan4736 on Jun 8, '03
Jun 8, '03Originally posted by 3rdShiftGuy
If I had to pick 20 nurses out of those people, I'd pick only a few men. But I'd also rule out many women as well. So your point is well taken. I hope you or anyone else didn't take it as "men don't make good nurses" because that's not what I said. I said "the average male". But what is average. Probably the "average female" doesn't have what it takes either.