RN2007

Exactly Noel... Anybody can cheat on anyone, and doctors are wonderful people too and fun to date. If it works out fine, if not fine, but nobody should generalize about drs. or any other profession.

Sorry to mention it again but I did not hear anyone say that they say the same TV video that I talked about in my earlier post about nurses? If so, what did you think about the video?

Have any of you seen the video that I think is called, "Give me or Gimmee"..?. It shows several black lady nurses in white uniforms walking down a corridor in some hospital or facility singing, winking and suggestively swaying their hips while they eye everything of the opposite sex including adult and geriatric patients, and babies, and sings, "Give me, Give me, Give me, Gimme, gimme, gimme,", and sing this over and over, with other phrases such as, "I will give you want you want H-o-n-e-y, but ya got to give me, give me, give me, gimme gimme gimme... "" "" , " "... This video - "Gimme" comes on every morning in succession like clockwork, with "Woman Like You by Michael Bolton, and some "Floetic video around 5:15 am on Lifetime channel. The Gimme video is really a hoot to watch but with the way it comes on every morning it is like I am reliving what happened in GroundHog Day over and over and over... I have actually woke up my hubby to watch this Gimme video in the early am and he thought it was funny. Now really, can you imagine if this idea of nurses is constantly pounded into the human psyche every morning, where some of these sexist attitudes are coming from, lol?? Now don't get me wrong, I am not against harmless flirting because a lot of it is innocent and really many times nothing is meant by it other than a showing of appreciation for another person, but it is sad how some occupations are portrayed as being "sexy" and are the butt of many kinky nurse dress up of jokes, ya know, and we all have heard about many of these. It makes you wonder what some people think that nursing is all about or rather what some perverts would like it to be about. Anyway, just wanted to mention those videos since I had never seen anyone else say anything about them. ....April

Sbic, I do agree that most posters here were way too harsh on JHUnurse. I personally believe that the girl was just being honest about a subject she wanted others input on and definitely do not believe that she was trying to search for drs. to marry only for money!! My God, we should give people a chance, without jumping all over them and judging them sooo harshly. To make matters worse, JHUNurse, tried to explain even more clearly in her second post, only for the others on the message board to ignore it and to keep trashing her. How unfair... You would wonder what some of these posters issues are of their own, because they have the need to put words in JHUnurses mouth that she did not even say. JHUnurse, I want to wish you the very best on your nursing studies and want to say to please ignore these flaming posts because they were unwarranted. Yes, you do deserve to be a nurse and to find happiness with ANY man you want to! I think that you should give anybody that you date a chance to reveal their true selves, because there are many very nice docs out there, as well as there are nice men in other professions. And no, all doctors are not lying, cheating, arrogant scum!! Some are very nice!! When I worked in the hospitals awhile back, I never sought out any drs., but many unmarried residents came on to my unit and asked me out and I dated several of them and really cannot say a bad word about any of them. A few of them are some of my good friends today and have become friends with my husband as well, and we all double date sometimes. The only reason I did not marry one of them is that I had an architect back then that wooed me off my feet and I am glad because we have been married for almost 15 years since. For the record, I also dated a few engineers but found them to be the most boring men I had ever met, and matter of fact, I remember there was a research study done awhile back in a magazine that put engineers way down on the totem pole of the type professions that women found to be boring in many ways, etc. , etc.., which I am sure there are good ones too because I do not believe in stereotypes. So JHUnurse, you go for what you want to and best wishes!

I personally am against spanking, hitting, slapping, or physically touching a kid or child in any way, as a means to punish him/her. Even if some of you do believe it is okay to do so, in todays times, it is not wise to hit them because, your child, spouse, a friend of the child, etc. may call the police or Dept. of Family Services and you very well could end up in a court case, and without the custody of your child for a long time, even if the accusations were never true to begin with. My background is in clinical counseling and I have seen this happen to parents many times and have felt sorry for them. And yes, I have 3 children and would not dare to put a hand on them. Think about it, do we think it is okay for our husbands to slap us (women) because they get upset at us, or even women slapping or hitting men? Try this, and many times a spouse will call the police. My hubby knows his butt is grass and he better pack his bags if he hits me or my children, Period! There are many other ways to deal with problem kids like first trying the communication route until it is exhausted, then taking away their best loved priviledges, then sometimes making them go to counseling sessions and/or having to admit them into a mental health child or adolescent program to get them on the straight and narrow. There are many choices we have as parents. It is up to us to make sure the child first knows they are loved, and that you spend time with them on a regular basis. Also, as parents we must set some absolute guidelines of things a child can and cannot do, and how they are to behave toward us and toward society, knowing full well they will make mistakes and that is part of the process, and for them to be able to come talk with us anytime and that they will always be in less trouble for being honest about things, rather than them lying to us and having to find out about their problems after things are too late. But regardless, you never can totally shut the door on your children and not help them when they need it, because when they see you do this, many of them will never allow you back in their hearts to be their parents ever again. Bottom line, I try working on saying things and doing things that help uplift my children and their self confidence and that make them feel good about themselves. Also, I try to encourage most teens to do some type of volunteer work because it helps reinforce a good work ethic, keeps them out of trouble a few hrs of the day, and shows them many other great lessons that are hard to teach otherwise. Best Wishes...

Hi. I was just wondering how you deal with not being able to read a drs. handwriting, because even though I am not a nurse, a lot of times I cannot read the Prescriptions that my drs. write out, therefore I wonder how nurses deal with this? When you have to go back to the Dr. to ask questions, are they usually nice or do they act like you should have been able to read it?

There is a big difference in caring about what grades you make by studying hard and doing what it takes to excel versus someone who is obsessive about their grades. I guess what makes it harder for a lot of us is that we all know based on the school or program that we try to get into, etc., that we must keep a certain GPA or we will not get admitted and/or cannot continue in the program. I know that I certainly am nervous about starting back in college for the 2nd time and this will be a 2nd chance for a new career for myself, and I think since I am older that I will be more focused and will do at least as good as I did when I got my other degrees years ago, if not better. I had a 3.7 years ago when I got my B.S. and had a 3.9 when I got my Masters Degree, although neither degrees were in nursing but the programs were pretty tough. However, back then I did not feel the type pressure that I have in the nursing program, although now to think about it in my other programs I never got a C ever in a course and I know they had rules as well that if you did not make at least a C, you would have to retake the course. Oh well, I guess I was young then and just expected to study, do well and to achieve. I know being 38 now and going back to school, I will have to work on my confidence some because many times I wonder how well I will do with all those years that has passed since the first time I went to school. Regardless, when you find yourselves getting too stressed due to whatever reason, back off and do something that relieves your stress like taking a nice long bubblebath with aromatherapy, having a night off with the one you love and doing some fun things, spend some time with some good friends that are positive and who help make you feel good about life, and mainly understand that you have it all under control. and that you are only human. :kiss

Well, I cannot speak about other fields, but in the nursing programs that I have seen, if you make lower than a C on a course, you fail that course and cannot continue at that school in the nursing program. However, I have been a bit confused reading on the message boards that some students who failed at some point during the program and quit, that they went into a new nursing program at a different school at later time. So, I wonder how all of that works? Also, I do not think that you can repeat failed courses in your nursing program, right? And lower than C in the program is failing, as well as some nursing courses are graded only by a Pass or Fail basis. However, I have always been pretty grade conscious, but if I made a B here and there, I honestly would NOT get upset about it. But when I am studying, so that I will do good, I study hard as if I am trying to ace it, so grades normally will work in my favor. But if you stress yourself out too much that could have an opposite effect on your grades than what you would like, so just make sure that you do study hard, and lighten up about what your grade ends up being because it is not like you can do anything about it. Try to balance your life by "having a life outside of class and taking care of yourself by, - doing some fun things for yourself and loved ones, get some sleep and exercise for stress relief, and keep your eye on an important goal that you have for yourself, and you should be able to do just fine...

I have also heard that as long as you are a RN, the pay is the same, regardles of whether you have a ADN or BSN . However, I have not gone through the actual nursing program yet, so I cannot say how hard my ADN program will be, I just know that now that I am 37, I am more mature now to go back to school and feel that I will enjoy it more and will get a lot more out of it now that I am married, calmed down, and more serious because it will be my long term occupation by choice. ...April

Boggle, you are sooo right. However, I have found that calling them ahead of time is a waste of time, because the receptionists never have told me the truth because according to them when I call ahead of time, all is well, but when I get there it becomes apparent that I am one of around 4 or more people with the same appt. time, and of course the pharmaceutical reps have bribed their way ahead of us with a box of Krispy Kreme doughnuts, lol... And when the nurse finally weighs me., put me in a room, I normally put on my gown and lay down and try to get some sleep till the doc appears. I usually have to take off of work a minimum of 3 or more hours... Yeah, fun!

I just had to bring this up, because respect for peoples time works both ways. What about the drs. that have their office staff to double and triple book their patients appointments, and make their patients wait in the lobby for 2 hrs or more on a regular basis, while those pesky pharmaceutical reps zoom in and out of the office without an appointment? How are the patients respected when this happens and where is the "patient service" when it happens? Oh, and this used to happen to about 3 of my primary care dr. offices, all of which I had to quit seeing each because of the office problems such as this. Sure, I understand that all offices are not this way, so kudos to your office for not being that way and be glad that it is not. And most definitely, patients should be on time for their appts. or call if they are late, and they need to be more understanding and should know that if they are late that they just might need to be rescheduled.

Hey. I just got a returned call from the FL Board of Nursing. The lady told me that since my DUI was that old - 17 years ago, that it would NOT cause me any problems getting admitted into the nursing program - Yeah!! However, she did say that if the DUI or DWI happened 5 or less years ago, the student would not be able to get admitted into a FL nursing school program and could not get a nurses license. She said that even if you think that the DUI was dropped off your record due to being so long ago, etc., to always still make sure that you answer all questions honestly by revealing when asked, the exact type offense that you committed, because the schools, etc., do extremely thorough investigations and if you are later found to have lied, you will be thrown out of the schools program and/or your nursing license can be taken away permanently. Of course, if you had a felony DUI in case there was an accident where someone was hurt or killed or a felony of any other type, you cannot be admitted to nursing school. Keep in mind that other states may have different laws, so look up on the internet, for example - GA Board of Nursing for info re: their laws and to get a phone number where you can call to anonymously talk with them about your individual situation.

Thanks very much for your replies. Have any of the rest of our board members here had a DUI before they were admitted to the nursing program, and what problems did it cause you getting into the nursing program and with the boards? I hope all of you are having a nice Friday so far! TGIF!! I plan on doing some gardening and just relaxing this weekend.

I just left a msg for someone from my states BON to return my call re: this. Oh, and like I thought, I rechecked on the internet and at least in the states of CA, FL, and SC specifically, a DUI or DWI is a misdemeanor if you have two or less arrests for such. It becomes a felony DUI / DWI if you had 3 or more arrests for it , or if they were found to also have illegal drugs in their possession, and/or if someone else was hurt or killed as a result of it. I would assume that most other states have extremely similar laws. So, if the nurse in CA had their license taken away, there must have been much more to the story than what was told, because one DUI is not a felony. Anyway, as much as I hate that I have the DUI on record 17 years ago, I would hope that the nursing board would not hold this against me, especially since it was so many years ago, and after all, I have known and worked with quite a few nurses and they certainly were not nuns without a background. Many have done things that would make your hair stand on ends. But regardless, I do understand just how serious and stupid that having a DUI at any age is, given the problems that it can cause.

What does BON stand for?