LPN to RN compensation

  1. I would like to know in your facility, do they compensate when an LPN becomes an RN, as far as pay rate goes. At my facility, they start new grad RN's at 17.00/hr. I asked them, when I get my RN, i won't start out at the new grad RN rate will I? (I have been an LPN for 10 years) 3 of them at my present facility. I was told I would start out at the new grad rate! I know other facilities give some credit for previous experience--some ideas?
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  2. 15 Comments

  3. by   JNJ
    Robyn: Take things in order: get your RN, obtain an offer for employment in the position you would like, then start negotiating pay. And I mean, negotiate, not ask them what they will pay!

    Be polite, firm and discreet. Know what the pay scales are, politely let people know that the pay offer does not compensate you for 10 years health care experience; point out your positives - e.g. less orientation necessary, knowledge of Ps and Ps etc. Be calm, firm and keep negotiating. They need you more than you need an inadequate pay offer as an RN. Just keep the negotations open until you get what you want. Or leave for what you do want.

    Incidentally, how do you feel about a CNA or gets her ten years of health care experience included in her new LVN pay offer?

    Empower yourself and enjoy doing this. JNJ
  4. by   Pretzlgl
    In my facility, you are considered a new RN no matter how many years of LPN experience you have. You would start at the new grad rate.
  5. by   meownsmile
    I have to agree with JNJ,, i went back to the hospital that i worked for 8 years as a LPN. Still had to go through the interview process as a new RN, but it gave me an opportunity to discuss the benefits of my seniority there and what more i could bring to the facility that other "new Grads" couldnt. Plan your opening and discuss it from there, they will give you the opening during the interview. I think they expect it, and if approached the right way you may get a better per hour rate than the "new grad" rate. I did.
    Remeber what you know already,, hospital policies, pertinent individuals in other departments, Dr's are familiar with you already and have already decided if they can trust you. The staff you will be working with already know your work ethic and have a pretty good idea what they will need to concentrate on during your orientation. You already know the layout of the hospital and where "things" are. Go for it, if you dont make your past role valuable to them noone else will.

    Oh, and i do think a CNA that becomes a LPN or LPN to RN should have her experience taken into consideration. As long as it is in the same facility why shouldnt it? They bring valuable experience in the facility back to the facility in their new capacity too. We arent talking mega bucks here. We are talking reasonable pay incentives to come back to their own facility i think.
    Last edit by meownsmile on Dec 24, '02
  6. by   tiger
    at my hospital you get one year rn credit for every two years worked as an lpn. makes a big difference for those who were lpns for many years.
  7. by   P_RN
    In ours the LPN "clinical ladder" WAS when you became an RN. Otherwise it was just according to seniority quartiles.
  8. by   oramar
    I liked that facility that gives one year credit for every two years worked as LPN. That is called showing respect. Something managment all over this country needs to do more of.
  9. by   DIPLOMATICRN4HIRE
    Most would consider you as a New Grad. When I went from lpn to rn I was considered a New grad and it stank to high heavens but thats the way it was. Good luck on it
    Zoe
  10. by   Teshiee
    I know it sucks pretty much but what I did is when I became licensed as a RN I chose an area that I would like for a 2 year committment and then worked perdiem or parttime other places. Starting with a new grad rate is lousy it would take years to obtain a decent wages. That is why so many of us do registry or find a per diem job
  11. by   SmilingBluEyes
    ALL things CAN be negotiated and if not in one facility, try another. I believe ALL prior LPN's should be compensated!!! But some places, it just does not happen. TRY negotiation first, like said above, in a discreet and professional manner.
  12. by   peter73
    not many facilities will come right out and hand over the $$$, unless you are firm in requesting it, have your ducks in a row as to why you should get credit for your experience and what you are willing to do for them. This means lay your loyalty on the line. Let them know you really like your job, see yourself there for many years, and that you would hate to have to look elswhere when you are already know the p&p's, chating systems, doctors and thier different little requirments for thier patients, whould require less training and are a member of thier team. Ask highier then you really would be happy with and negotiate down, know the $-figure you would work for and stick to it.
    And if all else fails, and you are really not happy with the wage, politely and professioonall turn down the offer and look elswhere.

    Managment knows a new grad RN with several years LPN experience is worth more than new grad pay, but they are more than happy to take your knowledge and experience for free if you let them do it.
  13. by   deleern
    when I graduated this spring they offered me a 3 year RN rate. 19.96 (LTC) I was a CNA 1st for a year and then LPN for 2 and Now an RN.
    But i had put applications in other places and they are the ones that offered this if I stayed. So apply to other places... and then see what happens
  14. by   queenjean
    While I was told by HR that I would have to start at a new grad rate, my director went to bat for me, and I'm starting at a couple bucks an hour higher--I probably got the equivalent of 2-3 years experience credit. I've been an LPN for 7, with 2 years at this facility.

    I felt that was fair. They are also paying for a third of my tuition, so that helps, too.

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