Is there a need for more male nurses? - page 3

As a new LPN graduate I constantly here "Congratulations, we need more male nurses." & "As a man most employers will hire you on the spot!"..... But it has been my clinical experience that there was... Read More

  1. by   Havin' A Party!
    Quote from tmiller027
    ... I think in ANY profession diversity is a good thing. You give the public, patients, clients or whatever a better variety of service the more different types of people from different backgrounds that you have. It can only make that field better.
    Absolutely on the money!
  2. by   ktwlpn
    Quote from LarryG
    IMHO, more qualified guys in the profession will tend to give it greater balance and credibility. Will also engender better and more effective care.
    CREDIBILITY???? Please explain that one,sugar.....Are you saying that the nursing profession lacks "credibility" because it is predominantly female? < cred-i-bil-i-ty >noun
    1. believability: the ability to inspire belief or trust
    2. willingness to believe: a willingness to accept something as true
    trustworthiness, reliability, integrity, authority, standing, sincerity, believability

    Okey dokey.............. :stone you really didn't mean this,did you?
    Last edit by ktwlpn on May 29, '04
  3. by   caroladybelle
    Quote from SmilingBluEyes
    My my my folks are rude these days. The OP here needs a little lesson on internet/board etiquette, I think. First, if you post a question on open forum you risk get honest opinions, not just those you are looking for or that please you. Taking heads off for this is not a real polite or cool thing to do. I was not being rude, just honest.

    ACLU?

    whatEVER.
    Agree with Deb on this one and her previous answer.
  4. by   finchertwins
    Okay here is my idle thoughts. It is true we do need more men in nursing, we also need more women in nursing. How is that for a stance? To get to the core of the issue, what equipment a person has should never be an issue for what kind of job they can do, it should be all about the skills and the personality behind the nurse. Those (staff) that make gender an issue are doing an injustice to both men and women that want to care for their patients. It seems most on this thread agree on the gender issue and for those that don't(:angryfire ).
    Last edit by finchertwins on May 30, '04
  5. by   PrisonrNurs
    If there's a greater need for male nurses in nursing, it's in Corrections. I'm one of two, of nine nurses in a men's prison and being a male does have definite advantages. For one thing, the inmates are less likely to try to intimidate me into getting what they want (likely because I'm a BIG nurse). Gotta love them for trying though. Moreover, it's much easier for the inmates to discuss "male" problems with male nurses than with female nurses.

    Me and the other male nurse here get many requests sent to us directly when inmates have a genital or anal problem that they need to be seen for. Does this mean we're more qualified than the female nurses here? ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! The other nurses have levels of experience that can be measured in decades, which I can't come close to. I have a lot to learn from them and they are always there when I have a question or problem.

    Male and female nurse aside, it's all of us working together that is of greatest benefit to the people we care for. Each of us has something to contribute, regardless of gender, not only in Corrections, but in any field of nursing.
    Last edit by PrisonrNurs on May 31, '04
  6. by   hitechlvn
    I may be way off base here, but could it be that when they say "we need more men in nursing" they mean it from a standpoint that it is a "women dominated profession"? It would be akin to saying we need more women in construction, or basket weaving or whatever, to bring nursing to a closer ratio of men to women? I myself would like to think that it is because they would like to see the profession equally populated with men and women.
  7. by   jett01
    Quote from moondancer
    No need for defensiveness Redd, you asked a question, got some answers....
    Personally, I have never heard that phrase..."we need more male nurses...."; ever, in about 14-15 yrs of working in healthcare.
    My response would be..."Why do you say that....?" to those that tell you that. Who are you hearing these comments from anyway? It may make a difference.....
    I've heard the phrase about needing more male nurses often in my 3 years as a staff RN. I take it as a compliment from patients and their families on a job well done. In my fairly rural area of the world patients & families are not yet completely used to male nurses and probably aren't sure what to expect. Maybe they expect me to gruff, less sensitive to their needs, I don't know. It may have something to do with working on an ortho floor with lots of heavy lifting too. Perhaps patients believe I'm less likely to drop them on the floor or something. The thing is the comments I hear come primarily from patients and their families so it is a worthwhile topic.
  8. by   LT Dave
    Quote from reddgott
    where is this big major need for more men in nursing? any ideas??
    Leadership, Politics, lobbying, management. I have heard it over and over again by my female nurse coworkers that one of the reasons nurses are paid so well today has to do with all the men who are in it. Men will not work for lower income. Men are still the majority of the wage earners in the family.

    The respect nurses get in today's world has changed also. We are not expected to be the subservient little cute doctors helpers any more! Lets face it, in GENERAL men are not as emotional as women. I will never forget in nursing school,8 years ago, a male hating instructor accused me of being too paternalistic...excuse me if I was being a man. There are many patients who need a paternalistic verses mothering nurse. i.e. Veterans, military, prisoners, substance

    I work with many Great female who have leadership traits that I admire and have learned from. And there are men who make lousy leaders, but in general most would agree with me. Most have agreed with me, its been my observation. It's a good thing that the genders in nursing and for doctors have a better mix today. abusers. With some patients you need to be a little tougher with.

    Forget maternity; you do not belong there, that is an area where sensitivity is a great asset. Nobody wants a father-like male nurse to check their perinium.

    I work with many Great female who have leadership traits that I admire and have learned from. And there are men who make lousy leaders, but in general most would agree with me. Most have agreed with me, it been my observation. Its a good thing that the genders in nursing and for doctors have a better mix today.
  9. by   teeituptom
    I prefer working with female nurses, they are younger, prettier, and nicer
    They make me happy
  10. by   Havin' A Party!
    Quote from ktwlpn
    CREDIBILITY???? Please explain that one,sugar.....Are you saying that the nursing profession lacks "credibility" because it is predominantly female? < cred-i-bil-i-ty >noun
    1. believability: the ability to inspire belief or trust
    2. willingness to believe: a willingness to accept something as true
    trustworthiness, reliability, integrity, authority, standing, sincerity, believability... you really didn't mean this,did you?
    Sweetie... That's precisely what I meant. Will try to explain it to ya briefly. But do try to keep an open mind. OK, dear?

    First, please re-read my post. It stands for the proposition that more guys will tend to bring nursing greater credibility. Not what you may be suggesting.

    Simple fact: Most reasonable people have an easier time believing, trusting and accepting advice and suggestions from institutions (or whatever word you may wish to substitute here) that are balanced and diverse.

    Dunno about you, but If I'm choosing a professional team, I'd select folks that are different from me and from the norm -- all else being equal. Why? To cover those aspects of my background, experience, perspective, thought tendencies, professional prejudices, blah, blah, blah, where I may be short. Want people that are gonna enhance what I'll be bringing to the party, and not to be my clones. Expand this general concept to what we're talking about here.

    For the most part, the more monolithic an institution, the more readily it can miss other, non-standard opportunities. This, too, is a reason why enlightened managers are now hiring nurses with unique education and experiences... outside the traditional paths... business, law, engineering, IS, psychology, teaching, etc.

    Moreover, as already stated, some patients (both male and females) simply prefer guys.

    Could go on, Sweet Cheeks. But think that's enough to give you a flavor of what was intended.

    Hope it helps.
    Last edit by LarryG on May 30, '04
  11. by   ktwlpn
    Quote from LarryG
    Sweetie... That's precisely what I meant. Will try to explain it to ya briefly. But do try to keep an open mind. OK, dear?

    First, please re-read my post. It stands for the proposition that more guys will tend to bring nursing greater credibility. Not what you may be suggesting.

    Simple fact: Most reasonable people have an easier time believing, trusting and accepting advice and suggestions from institutions (or whatever word you may wish to substitute here) that are balanced and diverse.

    Dunno about you, but If I'm choosing a professional team, I'd select folks that are different from me and from the norm -- all else being equal. Why? To cover those aspects of my background, experience, perspective, thought tendencies, professional prejudices, blah, blah, blah, where I may be short. Want people that are gonna enhance what I'll be bringing to the party, and not to be my clones. Expand this general concept to what we're talking about here.

    For the most part, the more monolithic an institution, the more readily it can miss other, non-standard opportunities. This, too, is a reason why enlightened managers are now hiring nurses with unique education and experiences... outside the traditional paths... business, law, engineering, IS, psychology, teaching, etc.

    Moreover, as already stated, some patients (both male and females) simply prefer guys.

    Could go on, Sweet Cheeks. But think that's enough to give you a flavor of what was intended.

    Hope it helps.
    Honey bun-if you really mean that diversity is a good thing in any field then I am all for it---I just don't agree that we have to have male nurses to achieve greater "credibility" First and formost we need to educate the public regarding what a nurse actually does-with the support of our administration....When the public accepts us as professionals and not as a doctor's handmaiden we will have greater credibility...That's just my opinion,pumpkin.....
  12. by   leslie :-D
    Quote from teeituptom
    I prefer working with female nurses, they are younger, prettier, and nicer
    They make me happy
  13. by   ktwlpn
    Quote from earle58
    pay it no mind earle

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