I'm sick to my eyeballs of incompetent agency nurses. - page 3

:angryfire I am sick and tired of having to work with incompetent agency nurses. Ones that have no clue what to do but take the shift anyway because it's money. I'm sick of having to teach... Read More

  1. by   Nascar nurse
    Quote from fergus51
    I have no problem helping agency nurses with finding things, charting, etc. I do have a problem when we get a GERIATRIC nurse working in the NICU!!! Yes, this happened at my hospital. Those rigorous yearly testing and competency evaluations are apparently not all that impossible to bypass if a geriatrics nurse can wind up in the NICU. Those people drive me insane and they give a bad name to others. We have also had several agency nurses claim to have NICU experience only to find out they were really newborn nursery nurses.
    Trying to start a flame war w/ geriatric nurses??? :angryfire I agree with you that I would not be appropriate to just pick up a shift in NICU (would in fact scare the H@!! out of me) but.. comments like "Those people drive me insane and they give a bad name to others" and "if a geriatric nurse can wind up in the NICU" would seem to imply that we are a stupid group of nurses and honey that just isn't true. My job and responsiblities would scare the crap out of you too so lets just play nice here ok?
  2. by   fergus51
    Quote from Nascar nurse
    Trying to start a flame war w/ geriatric nurses??? :angryfire I agree with you that I would not be appropriate to just pick up a shift in NICU (would in fact scare the H@!! out of me) but.. comments like "Those people drive me insane and they give a bad name to others" and "if a geriatric nurse can wind up in the NICU" would seem to imply that we are a stupid group of nurses and honey that just isn't true. My job and responsiblities would scare the crap out of you too so lets just play nice here ok?
    Oh Lordy, you are reading something into my posts that isn't there. I am not trying to start a flame war with geriatric nurses. My problem with this nurse wasn't that she was a geriatric nurse, it was that she wasn't a NICU nurse and took an assignment in a NICU which gives agency nurses a bad name (not geriatric nurses). It would be no different if she was a L&D nurse, a public health nurse, a med-surg nurse, an OR nurse, etc. Maybe people have insulted you as a geriatrics nurse, but I am not one of them.
  3. by   Jo Dirt
    Quote from Tweety
    Don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel.

    I hate to say it, but the Agency nurses that work night shift around here are pretty dreadful. Not that they are incompetent, just lazy. Unfortunately, and flame me if you will, they are mostly male nurses, and I hate to slam my own gender, but that's the way it's been around here. I lost count how many of them are banned from coming to our facility.

    I have, on the other hand, met a few awesome ones, so they all aren't bad.
    Funny you should say this. I have refrained from mentioning this because I didn't want to offend anyone, but if there is a gender better suited to nursing (in general) in all honesty I would have to say it's female.

    Not because I don't value men. I love men. But I have never seen a male nurse I would feel comfortable with working on me on the floor. Not because of the gender thing, but because from what I have seen they do not have what it takes, to say, do a good dressing. I used to work behind a male nurse and always had to redo his dressings, and he would leave the med cart in a mess.
    On the other hand I think male nurses naturally excel in areas like the operating room where their stamina and quick reflexes are what keeps the surgeons requesting them to assist.

    But about the agency thing. I was hoping to get into agency, eventually. I just hope I know my stuff before I get there.
  4. by   slinkeecat
    There is incompetency in all areas of the working world....But one comment about "agency nurses"... Those agency nurses are "angels" @ times... When we were severely understaffed.... I was so glad to see an agency nurse so I wasn't working 16 hr days.... I got to go home and rock my babies, instead of working like an indentured servant... and before this starts the flame war about "being weak: working in those conditions" Well, I am in rural WV and there were no other nurses in the area and I felt an obligation to my patients to provide health care to them....
    I think Agency nurses... all nurses rock....
    What saddens me-----> the trend in nursing to tear each other down, rather then to unite to change the crappy things in our profession.
  5. by   Tweety
    Quote from LPNtoRN
    Funny you should say this. I have refrained from mentioning this because I didn't want to offend anyone, but if there is a gender better suited to nursing (in general) in all honesty I would have to say it's female.

    Not because I don't value men. I love men. But I have never seen a male nurse I would feel comfortable with working on me on the floor. Not because of the gender thing, but because from what I have seen they do not have what it takes, to say, do a good dressing. I used to work behind a male nurse and always had to redo his dressings, and he would leave the med cart in a mess.
    On the other hand I think male nurses naturally excel in areas like the operating room where their stamina and quick reflexes are what keeps the surgeons requesting them to assist.

    But about the agency thing. I was hoping to get into agency, eventually. I just hope I know my stuff before I get there.

    Boy, you could potentially open up a can of worms with that one. So I won't go there.

    I was told the last time I worked by two ladies in a room "we've decided of all the nurses you're our favorite". So I'm confident in myself. (I think gay guys make better male nurses, but I don't want to say that too loudly because I'll get fried to a crisp. LOL)
  6. by   UM Review RN
    Quote from Tweety
    Boy, you could potentially open up a can of worms with that one. So I won't go there.

    I was told the last time I worked by two ladies in a room "we've decided of all the nurses you're our favorite". So I'm confident in myself. (I think gay guys make better male nurses, but I don't want to say that too loudly because I'll get fried to a crisp. LOL)
    I've said it before and I'll say it again--I was truly amazed at the gentleness of the guys who cared for me when I was hospitalized. I could care less what someone's sexual orientation is, I need my pain meds or changing or whatever, and I'll bless the person that does it quickly and without a fuss.


    That said, all this thread is doing is making me feel better about my decisions to refuse to float to areas in which I've had no orientation or specific training.

    I can't imagine what would possess a nurse to say she had NICU training when she didn't! Isn't that sorta fraudulent?
    Last edit by UM Review RN on Nov 17, '05
  7. by   DusktilDawn
    Quote from Tweety
    Boy, you could potentially open up a can of worms with that one. So I won't go there.

    I was told the last time I worked by two ladies in a room "we've decided of all the nurses you're our favorite". So I'm confident in myself. (I think gay guys make better male nurses, but I don't want to say that too loudly because I'll get fried to a crisp. LOL)
    Actually the three seasoned male nurses on my unit are awesome to work with and their patient's love them.
  8. by   bulletproofbarb
    well that turned in to a interesting discussion!!

    This thread was about incompetent agency nurses, and not competent ones, that I know do exist. It's the ones who try and wing it and are there for the money that get me worked up.

    Where I am, we don't have standards/tests for agency nurses, but I would really like to see it bought in. I think it's a great idea. We have a hospital agency, just not enough staff on it it fill the demand.

    As for the teaching side, I simply don't see why I should teach agency nurses new skills. If they can't do something, it's quicker for me to do it than teach them. Fair enough, if it's one thing but when they can't do anything then my BP rises. However, if it's one of our own nurses, then yes, I'll take the time out to teach them because that is part of my job anyway.

    Anyway, I'd never put my registration at risk. I guess some people just don't care. I've worked agency before so I do know how it is. All our agency staff get orientation to the ward.

    Having a chat today with the girls at work who agree that the calibre of agency we get is very poor. I think the problem lies in that our hospital is very good for booking agency in advance, and even better for cancelling them at the last minute. Hence, alot of the good agency nurses won't risk it. I can see why.

    It's a pretty small place where I am, and I've worked in all the hospitals in the area over the years so know how others function when it comes to agency. The big public hospital I worked at, we had alot of agency and they were damn good and regular. You never see the same person twice in our place...if you do, it's twice in about 3 months.
  9. by   misschelei
    I have worked with quite a few male nurses that I think are great and several who are just horrible. But I have to agree those male nurses who display some of the more feminine traits such as intuition and nurturing make better bedside nurses. But if I'm assigning the code bed or working in the ED I want the burly guy with the husky voice who moonlights as an EMT even if I have to go back after him and make sure all the ancillary stuff is done later.
  10. by   rstewart
    (I think gay guys make better male nurses, but I don't want to say that too loudly because I'll get fried to a crisp. LOL)[/QUOTE]


    Hate to burst your bubble but I believe most men who are in nursing would strongly disagree with what you think-----as would their patients.

    Interesting how negative stereotypes are condemned with strong admonitions as to the irrelevance of sexual orientation/who sleeps with who etc; Yet positive traits, (though equally sterotypical) are socially and politically acceptable.
  11. by   SmilingBluEyes
    How did this become or gender or gay issue??????

    As to the OP, I think it's dangerous to generalize. I have had the pleasure to work with some AMAZING agency nurses whose skills and ability to "hit the ground running" and get the job done, truly inspire me. I guess, maybe, we have better agencies out here where I am..........I am sorry your experiences are so bad.

    I have had GREAT experiences with agency nurses myself.
  12. by   jen42
    With the nursing shortage, there will always be agency nurses. Getting a hospital "float pool" is a godsend, since they work at the facility all the time, albeit in different units, and usually have to meet strict requirements for experience.

    Most agencies want to make money. The less scrupulous ones will place a geri nurse in the NICU, or a NICU nurse in geriatrics (help! they're all so huge!) or a psych nurse in the ICU, etc, because it makes them more money. The good ones keep people with the skills they know. I have seen agency nurses so good I wanted to become their groupie. Yes, nurses shouldn't accept posts in areas they don't know, but I'd say the larger problem is the agency, who shouldn't allow it. A scrupulous agency with good standards would solve the "dumb agency nurse" problem.

    And for the record, I have worked with wonderful, caring, heterosexual male nurses who I would gladly let deliver my children. Everyone breaks out of stereotypes sometimes.
  13. by   misschelei
    Quote from SmilingBluEyes
    How did this become or gender or gay issue??????

    As to the OP, I think it's dangerous to generalize. I have had the pleasure to work with some AMAZING agency nurses whose skills and ability to "hit the ground running" and get the job done, truly inspire me. I guess, maybe, we have better agencies out here where I am..........I am sorry your experiences are so bad.

    I have had GREAT experiences with agency nurses myself.
    Tweety started it!

    I still say bottom line.........what kind of idiot doesn't empty the bladderwashout?? No one is 2 busy to let 4 liters pile up.

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