If this is the direction of nursing management ..it stinks!

  1. o.k. i've given this new nurse manager a chance. she's been on the unit over 2 months, sits across from staff she's never met but, has yet to intoduce herself. has plenty of time to change a schedule that was already out, didn't have the new schedule for thanksgiving out until a week before the holiday, made documentation changes, left nasty notes for staff about qa,scheduled two meetings to meet the staff, i drove 1 1/2 hr. to meet her ,she never showed up. i just think this is a poor start for her. all we really want to know are things like what her expectations are for us, what the goals for the unit are. we really arn't interested in being her best friends or partying with her. that's the last thing on our minds right now. is nursing management changing that much! i hear other people talk about the same issues. if this is the direction of nursing it really stinks ! :trout: thinking of leaving the hospital .....magnet hospital....that's a joke!
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  3. by   BSNtobe2009
    I would wager it won't take long before her unprofessional behavior gets to the higher ups, and not much longer before you may walk in one day and find her job posted. There isn't a reason for a hospital to pay a nurse manager that just refuses to do her job.
  4. by   Simplepleasures
    Wow are you in Wisconsin, it could be my old mangager.She did get "hers" in the end though, she was fired and had her liscence limited for falsifying a MD order that resulted in a pts. death.Not nearly enough punishment, not reported to the DOJ as in the Julie Thao case.
  5. by   jojotoo
    Quote from BSNtobe2009
    I would wager it won't take long before her unprofessional behavior gets to the higher ups, and not much longer before you may walk in one day and find her job posted. There isn't a reason for a hospital to pay a nurse manager that just refuses to do her job.

    If this hospital is anything like MY hiospital, when her behavior gets to the "higher ups" she'll be promoted.
  6. by   Simplepleasures
    LOL!!So true!!
  7. by   Daytonite
    Yow! Wonder how she got the job? I got my first job in nursing management because the place couldn't keep managers. Not knowing any better, I jumped at the chance when it was offered. I already had 2 years under my belt at another hospital as a nursing supervisor. But, this was different. I had to learn the job as I went along. The only one giving me any guidance was the director of nursing and only when I asked her something or I made a mistake and she pointed it out to me. I ask you, is that any way to learn a job? Of course, I know better now, but at the time I was just so thrilled to have the opportunity. The criteria to continue to stay in the position was not to go over budget. I had a background in accounting before going into nursing so I didn't have a problem with reading a budget.

    Let me assure you that as a manager she has a number of duties of which you are probably not aware. One of them, I'm guessing from your post, is a seat on the quality improvement committee which is probably what generated that note on QA that she sent to you guys on staff. Somebody has already been bugging her about QA stuff on her unit. Did you clock in for the meeting that you came in for where she didn't show up? Make sure you do in the future because the people in the payroll office notice these kinds of things, start asking questions, and then report her to the big bosses when they catch wind of her irresponsibility with the company money. She's in management now where everything is measured by "the bottom line" ($$$). You don't call staff in and have to pay them for showing up and then don't do anything with them while they are in the building! If she starts flitting around with the company's money it will be adios muchacha and she'll be gone soon.
  8. by   AfloydRN
    Sounds like my ex- boss. It took forever to get rid of her. It took 6 RN's w/ over 10-35 years of experience to quit for them to get it. Good luck. Always remember you have options.
  9. by   AtlantaRN
    What a tool. Sounds like my old manager. She was directly responsible for the death of a patient. I turned her into risk management...She was sitting next to me when she got the call...lied through her teeth said she was "completely aware of the patients condition.", of course she did nothing about it (2 hours in the icu with no vitals or documentation), then said the reason patient went back to the icu after crashing on the stepdown unit was "because of the unreasonable family...." the patient was DEAD when she got the call from risk management.

    she could NEVER get the schedule out until the day before it started, would schedule meetings, then not even show up.....

    Her reprimand???????? WAIT FOR IT....... The PROMOTED her from MANAGER of the ICU/IMCU, to DIRECTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I transferred out that day. I refuse to work for someone who not only is neglegent, but is a liar as well. She should have lost her position AND her license......


    Is there someone over this person who you can address your concerns? In my situation, I couldn't go to her supervisors, as they were buds in nursing school, back in "the day"....
  10. by   TrudyRN
    Quote from ingelein
    Wow are you in Wisconsin, it could be my old mangager.She did get "hers" in the end though, she was fired and had her liscence limited for falsifying a MD order that resulted in a pts. death.Not nearly enough punishment, not reported to the DOJ as in the Julie Thao case.
    You could report her to DOJ or your local prosecutor and/or state Board of Nursing if you really think she should be prosecuted. Do it anonymously and they will investigate not only her but those who maybe should have reported it but didn't.
  11. by   RNforLongTime
    Quote from lauralassie
    o.k. i've given this new nurse manager a chance. she's been on the unit over 2 months, sits across from staff she's never met but, has yet to intoduce herself. has plenty of time to change a schedule that was already out, didn't have the new schedule for thanksgiving out until a week before the holiday, made documentation changes, left nasty notes for staff about qa,scheduled two meetings to meet the staff, i drove 1 1/2 hr. to meet her ,she never showed up. i just think this is a poor start for her. all we really want to know are things like what her expectations are for us, what the goals for the unit are. we really arn't interested in being her best friends or partying with her. that's the last thing on our minds right now. is nursing management changing that much! i hear other people talk about the same issues. if this is the direction of nursing it really stinks ! :trout: thinking of leaving the hospital .....magnet hospital....that's a joke!
    your nurse manager and mine sound like twins!

    but it's bahavior like that which got her promoted! i cannot stand it!!!! but i am stuck working here. for now.
  12. by   RNperdiem
    Sadly, some people are lacking in the leadership skills to be good managers. They may have the formal, educational training, but not the real skills a manager needs.
  13. by   Hellllllo Nurse
    Maybe the same nurse manager has been cloned over and over again. I think we've all worked for her.

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