Ever notice this about allnurses? - page 8

It regulary happens that someone posts a question or brings up a topic, and is immediately told "This has been discussed before. Do a search." Then- When someone does a search and posts in the... Read More

  1. by   Tweety
    Quote from earle58
    i have to agree with this.
    when there are that many thanks/responses, it has indeed struck a chord.

    not all mods/admins do this however.
    but rather than provide a link and close down the thread, why not provide the link, and leave the thread open?
    this way, if the op still has more questions/concerns, they have a place to do this.
    otherwise, it does come across as abrupt, abrasive and absolute.
    i'm glad this was brought up.

    leslie
    Good suggestion.

    We recognize this and have improved over time in my opinion. More often we do a reminder "this post is five years old now", which is important to say so people don't cross-talk with members long gone, even if it adds to the conversation, the point is moot. What I've noticed more often than not, it's the general membership who are saying "do a search" or "this thread is three years old"(obviously they can't close it).

    I think it depends on the topic and the forum. Topics such as "I have a DUI, can I be a nurse?" are closed and the poster asked to contact their BON. Sometimes the more hot topics that are years old and brought up again are closed such as "why are there so many obese nurses?" because after 50 pages and 3 years what else is there to say? Or if it's a potential hot topic like "why do old battleaxe nurses eat their young", we ask for a search and a closure (actually I got this particular topic on one thread as a sticky). We acknowledge this policy might sting a little bit for the brand new poster, but hopefully if they follow the advice to search, they will understand a bit more.


    Your post above could have been me when I first started moderating and when they were automatically closing down the "I heard BSN's make better nurses" or "Which is better BSN or ADN" threads with a curt closure. So to compromise we allow all threads of this topic to stay open, but move to the ADN vs. BSN forum, where conicidentally such common posts are now fewer and far between because people can see on the forum the answers to their questions.
    Last edit by Tweety on Oct 29, '07
  2. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Quote from Tweety
    Gee if that were the case, there would be precious few "vents" and responses.
    I meant the BB itself.
  3. by   leslymill
    I was offended when both those happened on my first day visiting this site. However I was emailed nicely and I got over it. We get passionate sometimes and post on the internet without thinking about TOS and not even looking at the dates on a post.
  4. by   Zookeeper3
    Quote from jb2u
    that is a lot of "thanks," but putting it into perspective there are over 240,000 members and 2,000 - 3,000 members on at any given time. we also have members that get upset when they respond to a post not realizing that it is an old thread.



    we are aware of this and actually tried to make it so only recent similar threads could show up. however, we had to go back at least two years. again, we also have members that do not like responding to old threads by mistake.



    actually, as staff, we do have to read all post to insure that they follow the terms of service. this is why i stand by my previous post. if you are not staff and are not just trying to help, then it is better to move on than to tell someone to "do a search." also, there are some threads that, as staff, we are happy to see go away. yes, we can make threads go away, but we prefer that people just follow tos so that we do not have to close/move threads. sometimes, we grit are teeth and watch as "dangerous" threads move ever so close to that thin line between right and wrong. after a few days of no post, we are happy to see a thread "die down" so that we do not have to be the "meanies" that we are thought to be, and then out of nowhere someone decides to post! this time it sends the thread in a downward spiral and is closed. believe me when i say, not me, but many of the other staff with more experience can call it when a post is going to "go bad" before even one person responds. so, yes, there are certain threads that no staff member wants to see. we take no joy in shutting down threads or pm'ing members about tos violations. we want to enjoy allnurses just like everyone else here. in fact we started out as members!!! i can not tell you how many times/hours i've spent googleing something (which the member could have done) to get an answer to their question. i do it because i enjoy helping people, but when i see two threads up that someone is asking the same question, it does get a little old.

    to disagree. while the same 'ole same 'old pop up.... if it is a while later there may be more value to add, insight to be gained or a vent that cures the blues for a member because that issue is pressing. why deny a member that simply because you've been there done that, it 's been exhausted... well to that member, its real time and happening and they can gain insight from past posts as well as new postings. perhaps the bordom is the issue, not the poster??? if the same issues are popping up, they obviously warrant a discussion with the newbies, no matter how boring for the mods, who've been there and done that!

    just my humble op. let people speak, you signed up to mod, not to censure due to boredum. this should be a discussion for the members who follow the rules:trout:
  5. by   pickledpepperRN
    Quote from jlsRN
    Look at all the users who liked the opening post!!!

    The Following 30 Users Say Thank You to Hellllllo Nurse For This Useful Post: 58flyer (10-26-2007), AdrienneRN2b (Yesterday), anazhe (10-26-2007), BORI-BSNRN (10-26-2007), Cherybaby (10-26-2007), dar15 (10-26-2007), DeLana_RN (Yesterday), Emmanuel Goldstein (10-26-2007), Evangeline2000 (Yesterday), grace90 (10-26-2007), HM2Viking (10-26-2007), Hopefull2009 (10-26-2007), Ivanna_Nurse (Yesterday), jlsRN (10-26-2007), kizzykatlove (10-26-2007), krazy_coconuts (10-26-2007), leslymill (Yesterday), Marie_LPN (10-26-2007), motorcycle mama (10-26-2007), MustangSallie1997 (10-26-2007), obynna (10-26-2007), pagandeva2000 (10-26-2007), RN4NICU (10-26-2007), RNSC (10-26-2007), SaderNurse05 (10-26-2007), SarasotaRN2b (10-26-2007), splinter (10-26-2007), suanna (Yesterday), TurtleSoup (10-26-2007), tvccrn (10-26-2007)
    I've been lurking.
  6. by   jb2u
    Quote from zookeeper3

    to disagree. while the same 'ole same 'old pop up.... if it is a while later there may be more value to add, insight to be gained or a vent that cures the blues for a member because that issue is pressing. why deny a member that simply because you've been there done that, it 's been exhausted... well to that member, its real time and happening and they can gain insight from past posts as well as new postings. perhaps the bordom is the issue, not the poster??? if the same issues are popping up, they obviously warrant a discussion with the newbies, no matter how boring for the mods, who've been there and done that!

    just my humble op. let people speak, you signed up to mod, not to censure due to boredum. this should be a discussion for the members who follow the rules:trout:
    nowhere in my post did i say anything about closing a thread due to boredom. in fact, we have never closed a thread due to us "being bored." only and only if there is a violation to the terms of service with this website, which just so happens to be common with certain thread subjects!!! we actually go out of the way to not close down threads....if only you could see what goes on behind the seens in the staff forum!!! i do not expect you or any other member to know or realize how much the staff puts into this site. i do it because i love this site, not for the recognition. we only ask that members follow the terms of service, which they agreed to when they signed up (everyone remember clicking yes?). like i said certain threads bring tos violations. yet, we still do not close it down, we wait to see if there will be a tos violation. as far as old post, i've already stated that if there is something that is closed that a poster would like to add to, the only thing they would have to do is pm the moderator or admin with what they want (to add a comment, etc). we are fair and here to help!!
  7. by   nursemike
    I remember when I first joined, there was a fascinating thread regarding the relative value of an ADN vs. a BSN. Numerous people objected to that dead horse, but as I was still working on my ADN, it seemed very pertinent to me. I'm glad it was finally made a sticky, so it's a lot easier just to skip over it and not have to rehash it ad nauseum.

    OK, I'll admit, I still peek once in a blue moon to see if anyone has thought of anything new to say. Also, just when I'm ready to unsubscribe from "Nurses Eating their Young," I tend to have some brilliant insight. But, really, it's starting to feel a bit played, too.

    It's a problem, though, because there are people here with 10-20,000 posts, so I have a lot of catching up to do...
  8. by   nursemike
    Quote from nursemike
    I remember when I first joined, there was a fascinating thread regarding the relative value of an ADN vs. a BSN. Numerous people objected to that dead horse, but as I was still working on my ADN, it seemed very pertinent to me. I'm glad it was finally made a sticky, so it's a lot easier just to skip over it and not have to rehash it ad nauseum.

    OK, I'll admit, I still peek once in a blue moon to see if anyone has thought of anything new to say. Also, just when I'm ready to unsubscribe from "Nurses Eating their Young," I tend to have some brilliant insight. But, really, it's starting to feel a bit played, too.

    It's a problem, though, because there are people here with 10-20,000 posts, so I have a lot of catching up to do...
    Okay, so this is probably cheating...but I wondered if it could be done.

    Think of it as my tribute to one of my favorite people.
  9. by   nursemike
    Quote from nursemike
    Okay, so this is probably cheating...but I wondered if it could be done.

    Think of it as my tribute to one of my favorite people.
    I kill me.:trout:
  10. by   RainDreamer
    Quote from nursemike
    I kill me.:trout:
    You kill me too
  11. by   Brian
    Thanks for everyones feedback everyone, it's always nice to hear so many comments. Obviously a topic of interest to many.

    With our new search box, it only takes a few seconds to search for some keywords, and then just copy and paste the long address code like and share it. It can help point a newbie into the right direction at least.

    For example rn-bsn:
    http://allnurses.com/forums/gsearch....urses.com#1319

    or best stethescope:
    http://allnurses.com/forums/gsearch....urses.com#1256
    Last edit by brian on Nov 7, '07
  12. by   ProfRN4
    I know this thread is 2 months old (ha ha ha), but I love the original question. It is so true!! You're damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

    I really don't come here mucj any more, but every once in a while I will get an e-mail about a post made to a subscribed thread. When I look at it, I will see how old the thread was. If the OP was asking a time specific question (like, "I am going to take NCLEX next month, help me", and someone gives advice two years later) I think it is kind of amusing to read the replies after.

    I know that I am an 'immeidate gratification' type of gal, who cannot be bothered to search too far about a topic. I will look about 2-3 pages, then give up and post a new thread.

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