Death bed visions - page 2

Hello everybody. I can not think of a better place to ask this questions other than a forum full of what I believe to be Gods angels in human form. In your experience taking care of the injured... Read More

  1. by   CHATSDALE
    i believe that people do see something as they are in the inbetween of life and death
    they did a cpr on my dad and he was angry because they brought him back from 'THAT BEAUTIFUL PLACE' this is what gave my mother the strength to sign the 'no code' and he passed three days later

    as for the return of certain capabilities my nursing instructor said that the body will try and save it self and will sometimes pump out epinephrine and then when the effect is over they have a rebound effect and they go down and usually die soon after
  2. by   BlueRidgeHomeRN
    Quote from pagandeva2000
    you should visit the web site www.iands.org. these people had near death experiences, and at times, they speak about death bed visions. i have not seen any patients experience this, however, i have met numerous people who have had ndes. a fascinating phenomenon, and i believe in all of them wholeheartedly.
    pd-

    thanks for the link--its great, and confirms everything i believe and have witnessed, both personally and professionally over my lifetime.

    i'm not even ill (that i know of!) and am a dnr with it all in writing. not the least bit afraid of dying--terrified of pain!! tgfm (thank god for morphine!)
  3. by   leslie :-D
    i have seen hundreds of these types experiences.
    hundreds.
    no one or nothing will ever convince me that there isn't an afterlife.
    i do have my philosophies about it and don't necessarily think one goes straight to 'Heaven'.
    i think there are levels of growth ea of us has to attain before going straight to the top.
    and so, i believe there are levels of afterlife.
    for those who have attained these 'passages' here on earth, they will go to a higher level when they die.
    for those who were shallow and selfish, there's much more growing to be done and will have to experience more realms than the selfless, Godly person on earth.
    but still, there awaits glorious opportunities for salvation.
    and our chances to prosper, await us in some form of life/energy and love.

    leslie
  4. by   Simplepleasures
    Leslie, I think you are on to a fundamental TRUTH.
  5. by   BlueRidgeHomeRN
    Quote from earle58
    there awaits glorious opportunities for salvation.
    yup, you can learn your lessons now, or learn them later.

    but, if you choose to turn your back on all lessons life presents, you may find yourself unable to learn at all. :heartbeat
  6. by   hypocaffeinemia
    I believe in the power of the human brain's ability to placate the dying patient by releasing a rush of neurotransmitters and endorphins as it dies, resulting in powerful and occasionally disturbing auditory and visual hallucinations in their last moments.

    These such hallucinations and emotions along with the patient's and families expectations of creed-dependent afterlives often bring comfort and joy to all involved, and should not be discounted or denied.

    But that doesn't mean I have to believe they are supernatural in origin.
  7. by   BlueRidgeHomeRN
    Quote from methylene
    but that doesn't mean i have to believe they are supernatural in origin.

    of course, you don't have to believe anything at all.

    however, you might want to be open to the possibility that there is more than an endorphin rush to all this.....

    some of us who have spent a long time on this planet have seen and experienced things we can't begin to put into words.:redpinkhe

    keep an open mind--life is chock full of surprises!
  8. by   Simplepleasures
    Quote from methylene
    I believe in the power of the human brain's ability to placate the dying patient by releasing a rush of neurotransmitters and endorphins as it dies, resulting in powerful and occasionally disturbing auditory and visual hallucinations in their last moments.

    These such hallucinations and emotions along with the patient's and families expectations of creed-dependent afterlives often bring comfort and joy to all involved, and should not be discounted or denied.

    But that doesn't mean I have to believe they are supernatural in origin.
    How do you explain the near death experiencer's accounts of what they SAW while clinically dead?Some actually reported accurately what was on top of cupboards and other things that they couldnt possibly have seen with their eyes while being resusitated. I guess we all can believe what we choose to, but there is SO much evidence , have you gone to the IANDS site and read some of these accounts?

    http://www.iands.org/
  9. by   hypocaffeinemia
    Quote from blueridgehomern
    of course, you don't have to believe anything at all.

    however, you might want to be open to the possibility that there is more than an endorphin rush to all this.....

    some of us who have spent a long time on this planet have seen and experienced things we can't begin to put into words.:redpinkhe

    keep an open mind--life is chock full of surprises!
    i don't appreciate the condescending tone of your post regarding my beliefs. i am fully open to the possibility. i consider it highly unlikely, along with all supernatural claims, but extraordinary evidence in support of extraordinary claims can not be ignored, were it ever to be found. this is how science works, after all.
  10. by   hypocaffeinemia
    Quote from ingelein
    How do you explain the near death experiencer's accounts of what they SAW while clinically dead?Some actually reported accurately what was on top of cupboards and other things that they couldnt possibly have seen with their eyes while being resusitated. I guess we all can believe what we choose to, but there is SO much evidence , have you gone to the IANDS site and read some of these accounts?

    http://www.iands.org/
    Anecdotes does not evidence make. There's a website devoted to every and all supernatural beliefs including psychic object reading and beyond- it's not like these things can't be scientifically tested.

    Speaking of websites, here's a nice article detailing my point of view:
    http://skepdic.com/nde.html
    http://skepdic.com/obe.html
    Last edit by hypocaffeinemia on May 9, '08
  11. by   pagandeva2000
    Quote from emsboss
    I also have seen many of the beautiful peaceful scenes just described. But, (y'all knew it was coming, didn'y ya?) I saw one young man, early 20's, losing to cancer who woke up in the middle of the night SCREAMING at the top of his lungs "HE is coming to get me HE is coming to get me!!!!" We all rushed into the room and it was horrible. The pt was backed up into the corner (he was too weak earlier to make the bathroom, used a BSC), IVs out, blood everywhere and pointing to the crucifix on the wall and SCREAMING. As we tried to get him back in bed he grabbed a nurse by the throat and then...simply fell over with the most horrified look on his face and died(DNR/DNI). When the mortuary came and picked him up he still had that expression on his face. I believe in a peaceful afterlife...BUT...There is also a not peaceful one also...I think...
    Some experiences are labeled as a less than positive NDE. These people have horrifying experiences, but most lead to a religious figure reaching for them for forgiveness, or that the experiencer calls upon who they consider as their Creator and then, they see the light. That one, in particular IS horrifying, to the patient as well as the witnesses. I wouldn't have felt so great, either, seeing that.
  12. by   leslie :-D
    Quote from methylene
    I don't appreciate the condescending tone of your post regarding my beliefs. I am fully open to the possibility. I consider it highly unlikely, along with all supernatural claims, but extraordinary evidence in support of extraordinary claims can not be ignored, were it ever to be found. This is how science works, after all.
    i understand what you're saying.
    for me, there is phenomena in life that just is not scientific.
    it's supernatural and cannot be explained.
    there are many scientists and researchers that agree there are credible occurrences but lack the tools/ability to explain it.
    it just is.

    leslie
  13. by   Simplepleasures
    Quote from methylene
    Anecdotes does not evidence make. There's a website devoted to every and all supernatural beliefs including psychic object reading and beyond- it's not like these things can't be scientifically tested.

    Speaking of websites, here's a nice article detailing my point of view:
    http://skepdic.com/nde.html
    True, they could be viewed as anecdotal.I guess it wont be known to us what truly will happen after death until our own time has come.

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