Abolishing the Pinning Ceremony - page 8

Hi all, I am currently a nursing student in a BSN RN program heading into my senior year (woo hoo almost done). I have also been elected Vice President of the Student Nurses Association at my... Read More

  1. Visit  Spidey's mom profile page
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    Since the dean discouraged the teachers from attending the pinning, we chose who pinned us. I chose my 8 year old daughter.

    Along with the pinning, we had a candlelight ceremony where we passed the flame from student to student via candles and then 3 of our classmates got their guitars out and sang.

    All in all I'm glad we did it - the graduation was a generic ceremony for all the students at the college. This was more meaningful.

    But I still think "to each their own". I don't think the dean should forbid it.
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  2. Visit  P_RN profile page
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    I finally finished after 12 years and 3 schools, in 1974.

    Want a cap? Go downtown and pick one up, you don't have to wear it.
    Want a pin? Go to the student union and pick out a plated or 10kt, you don't have to wear it.

    So this isn't a modern trend at all.
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  3. Visit  Jory profile page
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    Forgive me if I have already posted this tidbit of information, because I couldn't find where I posted this.

    I graduated from a very large university that had a medical school and the year I graduated there was talk of "my class" being the first that would do without a pinning ceremony.

    It stirred up such a fire, that there was a meeting about it with the Dean of the Nursing Program and the President of the College among other officials.

    I don't have many pivotal moments in my life, but as I was listening quietly to the back and forth banter, I suddenly had a realization and I raised my hand so that I could speak.

    When I got up, I directed my question to the college president...I said, "All is fair in love, war and academics. I understand that traditions can change with the times and by all means, we need to be open minded and be willing to change with them...I will fully support the school's desire to eliminate the pinning ceremony when the medical students have to go without their white coat ceremony. After all, I would hate to think the school would discriminate against one profession and not the other."

    You could have heard a pin drop in the room.
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  4. Visit  DoGoodThenGo profile page
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    Traditionally most all college/university nursing programs had separate capping and pinning ceremonies complete with lamp and Florence Nightingale oath. Sometimes these were held apart from the main graduation, other times it was included.

    By the 1980's more or less programs, especially BSN degrees it seem dropped the capping bit, but may still have had a pinning ceremony. Soon ADN programs followed suit. Then came the push to drop the pinning part as well and nursing students graduated with the rest of their class wearing the normal gowns and "hats" of college grads.

    Part of this push came from those who felt that caps, pins, oaths and what not were as relevant as whale bone corsets to modern nursing. This train of thought shouldn't come as a surprise as it was one of the reasons bedside nurses by and large had abandoned caps and later "starched whites" in favour of scrubs. Many bedside nurses stopped wearing their pins as well (once dress codes were revised) because for one reason in the modern fast pace of nursing the thing often got lost/fell off or whatever during one's shift. Secondly quite honestly on many scrub tops there isn't a place to pin the thing anyway. Even most ID badges today are clip on versus the name tag pins we all wore back in the day. Modern uniforms simply are too thin for anything of weight to bet pinned onto and stay put.

    Complaints also came from those who felt that nursing graduates some how "stuck out" at graduation ceremonies with their whites and caps, and that they got a "second" walk whilst everyone else (excluding honour graduates) got one or maybe none at all.

    Finally with more and more men entering the profession it was also felt that the whole capping/pinning thing was too centered on the female side of nursing. Of course male grads got pins, but not a single US school would ever give a male nursing graduate a cap, even if he only wanted one to have for whatever reason.
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  5. Visit  BlueDevil,DNP profile page
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    I have a whale boned corset, and that thing is actually useful. A silly cap or pin, not so much. Of course if the pins were made by Cartier I might change my mind.
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  6. Visit  Jory profile page
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    My argument that the practice is outdated, is I am wondering if they also make an announcement at these graduation ceremonies where they cheated nursing students out of their pinning, if the administration told the audience that the nursing students have to hit a HIGHER ACADEMIC STANDARD than for most other majors. So that A that I busted my butt for? I had to get a 94 for it versus a 90 other majors get to make for the same grade.

    Granted, other majors have higher academic standards as well and I am suggesting they should also be included.

    Bottom line: Pinning is a tradition in nursing just as the "white coat" ceremony is to medical students. There is no such tradition associated with psychology majors, history majors, teachers, communications, engineering, etc.

    Time and modernization doesn't diminish the accomplishment.
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  7. Visit  BlueDevil,DNP profile page
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    Point taken about the white coat ceremony. However, that is equally silly, so I don't know why anyone does either.
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  8. Visit  NutmeggeRN profile page
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    Quote from BlueDevil,DNP
    I have a whale boned corset, and that thing is actually useful. A silly cap or pin, not so much. Of course if the pins were made by Cartier I might change my mind.
    Klinger You are killing me!

    I digress, I cherish my pin..to each his or her own!
  9. Visit  DoGoodThenGo profile page
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    Quote from BlueDevil,DNP
    I have a whale boned corset, and that thing is actually useful. A silly cap or pin, not so much. Of course if the pins were made by Cartier I might change my mind.
    That reminds me; have to clean out my sewing stash. Have tons of NIB patterns that need to find homes for including one for a Victorian corset by "Past Patterns".

    The mind reels as to what you find a whale boned corset useful for, but we're not on that right now! *LOL*
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  10. Visit  DoGoodThenGo profile page
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    Quote from Jory
    My argument that the practice is outdated, is I am wondering if they also make an announcement at these graduation ceremonies where they cheated nursing students out of their pinning, if the administration told the audience that the nursing students have to hit a HIGHER ACADEMIC STANDARD than for most other majors. So that A that I busted my butt for? I had to get a 94 for it versus a 90 other majors get to make for the same grade.

    Granted, other majors have higher academic standards as well and I am suggesting they should also be included.

    Bottom line: Pinning is a tradition in nursing just as the "white coat" ceremony is to medical students. There is no such tradition associated with psychology majors, history majors, teachers, communications, engineering, etc.

    Time and modernization doesn't diminish the accomplishment.
    Yes, but out of all the careers mentioned teaching is the only profession. More to that medicine and nursing for that matter have a much longer history than most other professions and as such have built up certain traditions and customs along the way.

    Will agree caps and pins probably serve no useful purpose for many RNs today. However back the day that cap and finally your school pin meant quite allot to most nurses and even students.

    One worked darn hard to obtain one's first student cap, and just as hard to get stripes and or one upon graduation. Like many other professions and associations such as Greek groups or school tie, one's cap announced to the world one belonged to a particular privileged group.

    By statue or case law in most all United States and elsewhere in the Western world the wearing of a nursing cap whilst in a facility and or other healthcare settings is restricted to licensed nurses. Yeah, you can wear one on Halloween and parade around the city, but try walking into a hospital and or being photographed "pretending" to be a nurse and see what happens.
  11. Visit  BostonTerrierLoverRN profile page
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    That's it, if they do this, I'm going to crash a "White Coat Ceremony!" It is like like slapping Florence across the face, and Celebration is NEXT to cleanliness!

    Boston
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  12. Visit  NutmeggeRN profile page
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    Quote from BostonTerrierLoverRN
    That's it, if they do this, I'm going to crash a "White Coat Ceremony!" It is like like slapping Florence across the face, and Celebration is NEXT to cleanliness!

    Boston
    l


    And with nursing pin in hand, we can deflate some of the big egos residing in the white coats!
    On Guard!
  13. Visit  DoGoodThenGo profile page
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    Quote from Spidey's mom
    I was the student rep my last semester in an ADN program at a CC and we were told by the Dean that pinning ceremonies were "old school" and not professional, it wouldn't look good on our resume, local hospitals would look down on us, etc. This was 15 years ago.

    Well, I checked. I called hospitals in our area and in other states. I called the BRN. No one said they would look down on us, no one said it would cause them to not hire us, no other schools that I contacted at that time stated they didn't want their students to having pinnings. I went to the last meeting with the Dean and teachers and told them that I'd researched it and could find no reason not to have a pinning and invited them all to come. The Dean had already forbidden the teachers from attending if we went ahead with a pinning.

    We did our own pinning ceremony off campus. It was very nice. Two teachers showed up - one because he nephew was part of her class and one probably to show the Dean that she couldn't be pushed around.

    If the majority of the class wants a pinning, save money for it yourselves and have it off campus.
    Cannot understand your school's logic.

    No one ever listed their capping/pinning ceremony on their resume. Nor for that matter bothered mentioning it during interviews for employment other than perhaps making small talk.

    Caps and pins only came up in the course of discussion of employment after one was hired and advised of the dress code for one's floor/unit.

    I think what has happened is that many of the old school nurse educators have died off/retired and what one is left with are these new *professionals* who have very firm ideas about the profession.

    Kneeling before a quasi altar and having a cap pinned onto one's head, and or being pinned is just to "icky" for some modern nurse educators.

    Oh and forget about candle/lamp lighting and saying the oath.


    "I solemnly pledge myself before God and in the presence of this assembly, to pass my life in purity and to practice my profession faithfully. I will abstain from whatever is deleterious and mischievous, and will not take or knowingly administer any harmful drug. I will do all in my power to maintain and elevate the standard of my profession, and will hold in confidence all personal matters committed to my keeping and all family affairs coming to my knowledge in the practice of my calling. With loyalty will I endeavor to aid the physician, in his work, and devote myself to the welfare of those committed to my care."
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